ProZ.com global directory of translation services
 The translation workplace
Ideas
KudoZ home » Spanish to English » Construction / Civil Engineering

acuerdos verticales, cóncavos y convexos

English translation: sag and crest vertical curves


Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs
(or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.
GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Spanish term or phrase:acuerdos verticales, cóncavos y convexos
English translation:sag and crest vertical curves
Entered by: Nikki Graham
Options:
- Contribute to this entry
- Include in personal glossary

06:29 Sep 23, 2003
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Construction / Civil Engineering / estudio geotécnico
Spanish term or phrase: acuerdos verticales, cóncavos y convexos
Aún en este caso, las pilas y estribos de la mayor parte de las estructuras proyectadas, sufrirían asientos totales y diferenciales superiores a los habitualmente aceptados, aún para este tipo de estructuras relativamente poco sensibles a los asientos, dado que muy probablemente se producirían agrietamientos en la losa de compresión y se generarían ***acuerdos verticales, cóncavos y convexos***, en los apoyos, de deficientes condiciones geométricas para cualquier tipo de carretera moderna y menos acir del tipo autovía.

This one is driving me nuts. I found a reference to these "acuerdos" that is referring to "curvas de acuerdo" (link below), which as far as I know are transition curves. Does that fit here? Are they just transitions? If not, what the heck are they?

Here's the link:

http://www.carreteros.org/trazado/3_1ic/apartados/5_3.htm
xxxtazdog
Spain
Local time: 06:11
sag and crest vertical curves
Explanation:
I think the acuerdos here may be referring to curves, a giant leap perhaps, but I reserve the right to change my mind :-)

Anyway, some info I hope will help:
vertical curve = to provide a gradual change from one slope to another, a curve is inserted between two lengths of a road or railway at different slopes. At the foot of a hill the curve is concave upwards, and at a summit, convex upwards. (Civil engineering dictionary)

Vertical curves are required at the intersection of different road/rail gradients. They are placed so that the rate of change of vertical accelleration is gradual (for safety and comfort) and so that oncoming vehicles are visible for a safe distance. Curves may be convex (summit) or concave (valley or sag). The requirements to be met by a vertical curve are:
constant change of gradient;
uniform rate of increase of centrifugal force;
adequate sighting distances (1st ref)

Vertical Curves
The longitudinal profile of a road consists of straight grades joined by vertical curves. In addition to smoothing the passage of a vehicle from one grade to another the vertical curve increases the sight distance, particularly over crests.

Convex vertical curves are known as summit or crest curves and concave vertical curves as sag curves. At crest curves the minimum length of curve is determined by the requirement to provide stopping sight distance, or by appearance requirements. Lengths above the minimum may increase the sight distance over the crest but may also reduce the sight distance available on the approaches. The minimum length of sag curves is generally determined by considerations for motorist comfort or discomfort due to vertical acceleration, or by appearance. In some instances the length may be governed by drainage, headlight performance or overhead restrictions to the line of sight. 2nd ref)

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 3 hrs 26 mins (2003-09-23 09:55:50 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Hi,
still think that acuerdo vertical may be their way of saying curva de acuerdo vertical, but can\'t find any real evidence. anyway, HTH:

VERTICAL CURVES:
Gradients are joined by vertical curves. ***The vertical curves are normally Parabolas*** rather than circular curves as they provide a smooth transition and the calculations with respect to defining the elevation on any point along the vertical curve is quite straightforward. ***The vertical curves can be of two types , the crest vertical curve, and the Sag vertical curve***
http://www.unb.ca/web/transpo/mynet/mtu74.htm

Tema 18: ACUERDOS VERTICALES
1.- Proyecto de rasantes rectas. 2.- Cambio de rasantes. 3.- Curvas de acuerdo vertical. 4.-Cálculo del radio o parámetro de una curva de acuerdo vertical. 5.- ***Acuerdos verticales en forma parabólica***. 6.- Estudio de un arco de parábola referido a sus tangentes y a un eje de abcisas horizontales. 7.- Nomenclatura. 8.- Cálculo completo del perfil longitudinal. 9.- Cajeo analítico de un perfil transversal. 10.- Medición de superficies. 11.- Medición de volúmenes. Cubicación. 12.- Cubicación por perfiles transversales.
http://www.ulpgc.es/cgi-bin/proyectosdocentes/Presentacion/c...

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs 2 mins (2003-09-23 10:31:53 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

This is a powerpoint ref in English with some diagrams:
www.ce.ttu.edu/centers/techmrt/Faculty/drsanjaya/ Lesson18_Ch16_Vertical_Alignment.ppt

This is a Spanish link with diagrams of acuerdos:
http://www.carreteros.org/trazado/3_1ic/apartados/6.htm

This is in English (about design) and may be interesting:
http://www.webs1.uidaho.edu/niatt_labmanual/Chapters/geometr...

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs 10 mins (2003-09-23 10:40:05 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Compare these:

[RTF]Chapter 503
File Format: Rich Text Format - View as HTML
... street intersections : Same side 200 200 200 Feet. Opposite Side 200 200 200 Feet.
O. Vertical curve parameter K values : Sag To be supplied by Town Engineer. ...
grayme.virtualtownhall.net/Public_Documents/GrayME_RegCodes/ 001995AF-000F8513-001995B7.0/Stree~C3.RTF

PDF]Análisis de la carretera AV-502 con el programa IHSDM Beta v ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... Para esta carretera, por ser local, la longitud de curva no se ... Elevación, donde
dibuja el perfil longitudinal - Parámetro de acuerdo vertical K - Radio de ...
www.aepo.es/ausc/publ/analisis_IHSDM_AV502.pdf

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs 33 mins (2003-09-23 11:03:28 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Características de los acuerdos verticales (*)
Para determinar las dimensiones mínimas (longitud y parámetro) de un acuerdo vertical, conviene atender a los siguientes criterios:

-La visibilidad disponible en el acuerdo vertical debe ser superior o igual a la necesaria para conducir con comodidad y/o efectuar ciertas maniobras con un grado de seguridad aceptable (en particular, una detención de emergencia ante un obstáculo imprevisto y un adelantamiento).

-Consideraciones estéticas o posibilidades de percibir cómodamente un acuerdo vertical comprendido entre dos rasantes uniformes cuya diferencia de inclinación sea pequeña.
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:DDvGTQq9QoYJ:www.miliar...

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs 41 mins (2003-09-23 11:11:27 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Geometric design glossary:
http://www.webs1.uidaho.edu/niatt_labmanual/Chapters/geometr...

and more on vertical curves:
http://www.webs1.uidaho.edu/niatt_labmanual/Chapters/geometr...
Selected response from:

Nikki Graham
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:11
Grading comment
Thanks again, Nikki. Great references, and I think you are absolutely right.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3sag and crest vertical curves
Nikki Graham
3transition curves are in the vertical planexxxCMJ_Trans


  

Answers


16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
transition curves are in the vertical plane


Explanation:
corners are in the horizontal plane.
Corners link two sections running in different directions, transition curves link two sections at different heights. Very roughly speaking of course !!!

Under the following, I have found a reference to "summit or convex curves" and to "valley or concave or sag curves".
These are all avenues you may wish to explore
www.indiabuildcon.com/useinfo/stdblclines.asp
HTH

xxxCMJ_Trans
Local time: 06:11
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 36
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
sag and crest vertical curves


Explanation:
I think the acuerdos here may be referring to curves, a giant leap perhaps, but I reserve the right to change my mind :-)

Anyway, some info I hope will help:
vertical curve = to provide a gradual change from one slope to another, a curve is inserted between two lengths of a road or railway at different slopes. At the foot of a hill the curve is concave upwards, and at a summit, convex upwards. (Civil engineering dictionary)

Vertical curves are required at the intersection of different road/rail gradients. They are placed so that the rate of change of vertical accelleration is gradual (for safety and comfort) and so that oncoming vehicles are visible for a safe distance. Curves may be convex (summit) or concave (valley or sag). The requirements to be met by a vertical curve are:
constant change of gradient;
uniform rate of increase of centrifugal force;
adequate sighting distances (1st ref)

Vertical Curves
The longitudinal profile of a road consists of straight grades joined by vertical curves. In addition to smoothing the passage of a vehicle from one grade to another the vertical curve increases the sight distance, particularly over crests.

Convex vertical curves are known as summit or crest curves and concave vertical curves as sag curves. At crest curves the minimum length of curve is determined by the requirement to provide stopping sight distance, or by appearance requirements. Lengths above the minimum may increase the sight distance over the crest but may also reduce the sight distance available on the approaches. The minimum length of sag curves is generally determined by considerations for motorist comfort or discomfort due to vertical acceleration, or by appearance. In some instances the length may be governed by drainage, headlight performance or overhead restrictions to the line of sight. 2nd ref)

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 3 hrs 26 mins (2003-09-23 09:55:50 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Hi,
still think that acuerdo vertical may be their way of saying curva de acuerdo vertical, but can\'t find any real evidence. anyway, HTH:

VERTICAL CURVES:
Gradients are joined by vertical curves. ***The vertical curves are normally Parabolas*** rather than circular curves as they provide a smooth transition and the calculations with respect to defining the elevation on any point along the vertical curve is quite straightforward. ***The vertical curves can be of two types , the crest vertical curve, and the Sag vertical curve***
http://www.unb.ca/web/transpo/mynet/mtu74.htm

Tema 18: ACUERDOS VERTICALES
1.- Proyecto de rasantes rectas. 2.- Cambio de rasantes. 3.- Curvas de acuerdo vertical. 4.-Cálculo del radio o parámetro de una curva de acuerdo vertical. 5.- ***Acuerdos verticales en forma parabólica***. 6.- Estudio de un arco de parábola referido a sus tangentes y a un eje de abcisas horizontales. 7.- Nomenclatura. 8.- Cálculo completo del perfil longitudinal. 9.- Cajeo analítico de un perfil transversal. 10.- Medición de superficies. 11.- Medición de volúmenes. Cubicación. 12.- Cubicación por perfiles transversales.
http://www.ulpgc.es/cgi-bin/proyectosdocentes/Presentacion/c...

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs 2 mins (2003-09-23 10:31:53 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

This is a powerpoint ref in English with some diagrams:
www.ce.ttu.edu/centers/techmrt/Faculty/drsanjaya/ Lesson18_Ch16_Vertical_Alignment.ppt

This is a Spanish link with diagrams of acuerdos:
http://www.carreteros.org/trazado/3_1ic/apartados/6.htm

This is in English (about design) and may be interesting:
http://www.webs1.uidaho.edu/niatt_labmanual/Chapters/geometr...

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs 10 mins (2003-09-23 10:40:05 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Compare these:

[RTF]Chapter 503
File Format: Rich Text Format - View as HTML
... street intersections : Same side 200 200 200 Feet. Opposite Side 200 200 200 Feet.
O. Vertical curve parameter K values : Sag To be supplied by Town Engineer. ...
grayme.virtualtownhall.net/Public_Documents/GrayME_RegCodes/ 001995AF-000F8513-001995B7.0/Stree~C3.RTF

PDF]Análisis de la carretera AV-502 con el programa IHSDM Beta v ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... Para esta carretera, por ser local, la longitud de curva no se ... Elevación, donde
dibuja el perfil longitudinal - Parámetro de acuerdo vertical K - Radio de ...
www.aepo.es/ausc/publ/analisis_IHSDM_AV502.pdf

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs 33 mins (2003-09-23 11:03:28 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Características de los acuerdos verticales (*)
Para determinar las dimensiones mínimas (longitud y parámetro) de un acuerdo vertical, conviene atender a los siguientes criterios:

-La visibilidad disponible en el acuerdo vertical debe ser superior o igual a la necesaria para conducir con comodidad y/o efectuar ciertas maniobras con un grado de seguridad aceptable (en particular, una detención de emergencia ante un obstáculo imprevisto y un adelantamiento).

-Consideraciones estéticas o posibilidades de percibir cómodamente un acuerdo vertical comprendido entre dos rasantes uniformes cuya diferencia de inclinación sea pequeña.
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:DDvGTQq9QoYJ:www.miliar...

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs 41 mins (2003-09-23 11:11:27 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Geometric design glossary:
http://www.webs1.uidaho.edu/niatt_labmanual/Chapters/geometr...

and more on vertical curves:
http://www.webs1.uidaho.edu/niatt_labmanual/Chapters/geometr...


    Reference: http://www.sli.unimelb.edu.au/planesurvey/prot/topic/top13-0...
    Reference: http://www.usq.edu.au/users/ayers/tengmod06.htm
Nikki Graham
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:11
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1654
Grading comment
Thanks again, Nikki. Great references, and I think you are absolutely right.
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)




Return to KudoZ list


KudoZ™ translation help
The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.



See also: