crudos de carne, pescados y mariscos

03:27 Nov 22, 2011

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Spanish term or phrase: crudos de carne, pescados y mariscos

Yeah, yeah, it seems straightforward. However, I'm just not convinced that I have the exact translation for the particular context.

Context:

Especialidad: Selección de CRUDOS DE CARNE, PESCADOS Y MARISCOS preparados al momento por el Chef

Is it just "CUTS OF MEATS, FISH AND SEAFOOD"? It seems like it needs a little more 'ummph'. This is a VERY fancy restaurant. "RAW CUTS"?

As always, molto grazie!

Julie Thompson KudoZ activity Questions: 321 (8 open) (10 without valid answers) (12 closed without grading) Answers: 75 United States
Local time: 05:38

Summary of answers provided

4 +3

gourmet raw meats, fish and seafood

Cecilia Gowar

3 +1

marinated meats, fish and seafood

David Hollywood

3 +1

meat, fish, and seafood carpaccio

Charles Davis

Answers

10 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

marinated meats, fish and seafood

Explanation:
maybe

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if it's "crudo" normally means "raw but marinated"

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to make it palatable

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as in Japanese cuisine

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and I'm fairly sure about this

David Hollywood
Local time: 06:38
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 94

Notes to answerer

Asker: A little more explanation of your suggestion, please?

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

meat, fish, and seafood carpaccio

Explanation:
(In British English we wouldn't put a comma after "fish".)

"Carpaccio" if it is a single dish containing all three; "carpaccios" if they are separate dishes and you choose.

Carpaccio is the word normally used for a dish of thin slices of meat and/or fish. They can be marinated beforehand but don't have to be. A classic carpaccio is dressed with oil and lemon juice, but I've seen the word used generically for various forms of presentation. The thing is that the stuff is raw.

The problem with "marinated", to me, is that things described as "marinated" can be and very often are cooked (like marinated pork ribs, or something), and it's important that the customer should realise they're getting it raw.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpaccio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpaccio

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The thing is that "carpaccio" enables you to make it quite clear that's it's raw without using the word. However, it would be wise to check, if possible, whether this particular dish is enough like a conventional carpaccio to merit the word. If not, you're going to have to use "raw cuts", which doesn't sound great to me.

If, but only if, they're real Japanese style you can could them "sashimi".

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 11:38
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 112

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Noni Gilbert Riley

7 mins

-> Thanks, Noni ;)

neutral

Y. Peraza: Pero el problema de "carpaccio" es que implica que la carne se corta muy fina, y "crudos" no. El tartare, por ejemplo, es un crudo de carne donde la carne va picada. Y para el crudo de mariscos normalmente las piezas van más o menos enteras.

34 mins

-> Ya; habría que ver cómo se sirven estos "crudos". Pero el término "carpaccio" se emplea hoy en día con bastante latitud, según mi experiencia. El problema aquí es evitar "raw"... ¡Saludos, Yaiza!

neutral

Carol Gullidge: re comma: as this is a menu item, I'd still include that 2nd comma to clarify that this isn't a fish and seafood carpaccio (i.e., they are 2 separate items). I like "Carpaccio", but not absolutely sure how accurate it is here...

2 hrs

-> I don't think it would be ambiguous in context without the "Oxford comma", but I've no objection to putting it in. The main thing is what to call this, and I admit I do have doubts about "carpaccio" too.

neutral

Isamar: I agree with Yaiza and Carol. Can you ask the client?

10 hrs

-> I agree too. Thanks, Isamar.

6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

gourmet raw meats, fish and seafood

Explanation:
There are many varieties of raw meats and fish: Carpaccio, tartare, sashimi, sushi, ceviche, crudo and other less well known ones. I do not know if they are all marinated and would not add the word if not used in the original text.

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http://purelyraw.com/gourmet.htm
"Expecting "Rabbit Food" like salads, sprouts, and wheatgrass won't prepare you for your first taste of gourmet raw food."

Cecilia Gowar
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 162

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