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Los movimientos provisionales no tendrán validez hasta su contabilización después del cierre contable

English translation: Provisional movements will not be posted to your account until daily settlement occurs.


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Spanish term or phrase:Los movimientos provisionales no tendrán validez hasta su contabilización después del cierre contable
English translation:Provisional movements will not be posted to your account until daily settlement occurs.
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16:52 Feb 4, 2007
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Spanish term or phrase: Los movimientos provisionales no tendrán validez hasta su contabilización después del cierre contable
Se refiere a un giro realizado por un banco.
La frase es "Los movimientos provisionales no tendrán validez hasta su contabilización después del cierre contable".
Lo de contabilización después del cierre contable me suena mal hasta en español. Ya no sé si se refiere a availability of funds, a la propia validez de la operación o qué.
Cualquier sugerencia es bienvenida.
Mil gracias.
bunnie
Local time: 14:30
Provisional movements will not be posted to your account until daily settlement occurs.
Explanation:
OK.

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Note added at 29 mins (2007-02-04 17:21:41 GMT)
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OK, in that case, I would say "This transaction will not be posted to your account until settlement occurs". The point is that the bank cannot put the money into your account (regardless of how it's paid, whether by check, wire transfer, money order etc.) until they have the money themselves and this process (getting the money from the original bank) occurs during the "settlement" process. Yes, they do do this every day (it's standard banking procedure) but given your context (and the new info) it's better to just say "until settlement occurs". I should've marked this CL4. HTH. Will.
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Will Matter
United States
Local time: 11:30
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Thank you all and thanks willmatter!!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3Provisional movements will not be posted to your account until daily settlement occurs.Will Matter
4temporary/provisional transactions will be valid only if they are posted before the closing date...
Giovanni Rengifo
4some transaction activity will remain pending until transaction has been completely processed
Lydia De Jorge
3Temporary transactions will not be posted to your account until after the end of the banking day.Arianna Aguilar
3Temporary transactions will not be posted to your account until after the end of the banking day.Arianna Aguilar
3Account transactions will not be valid until after the close of business
Maria J Fernández
5 -3see phrase
Rafael Mondragon Hernandez


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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -3
ayuda con frase
see phrase


Explanation:
Provisional movements will no be valid until their account after the accounting closure. Hope it helps!

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Note added at 10 mins (2007-02-04 17:02:04 GMT)
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Alright, may be I made a mistake, instead of account, use "posting", the sentence will remain as follows "Provisional movements will no be valid until their posting after the accounting closure".

Rafael Mondragon Hernandez
Local time: 13:30
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Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Will Matter: I rarely criticize any KudoZ answers but you used 'no' instead of 'not', you used 'until' & 'their' incorrectly & your grammar was wrong. No "native speaker" would have ever said this the way that you did. Then you marked it CL5. Unbelievable.
3 mins
  -> friendly remark, could u provide an option?

neutral  Lydia De Jorge: Sorry Rafael, but willmatter is absolutely correct.
49 mins

disagree  cmwilliams: "will no be valid"??? Agree with willmatter
5 hrs

disagree  Giovanni Rengifo: Your answer makes no sense
5 hrs
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
ayuda con frase
Provisional movements will not be posted to your account until daily settlement occurs.


Explanation:
OK.

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Note added at 29 mins (2007-02-04 17:21:41 GMT)
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OK, in that case, I would say "This transaction will not be posted to your account until settlement occurs". The point is that the bank cannot put the money into your account (regardless of how it's paid, whether by check, wire transfer, money order etc.) until they have the money themselves and this process (getting the money from the original bank) occurs during the "settlement" process. Yes, they do do this every day (it's standard banking procedure) but given your context (and the new info) it's better to just say "until settlement occurs". I should've marked this CL4. HTH. Will.

Will Matter
United States
Local time: 11:30
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thank you all and thanks willmatter!!
Notes to answerer
Asker: This is quite what I have, with two doubts: movement or transaction, and daily. But what if it takes several days? this is a wire from Europe to the US, in case this clarifies the question. Thanks!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Smartranslators: Sí... también "provisional transactions" or "provisional credit and debit entries" ????????
6 mins
  -> Gracias, colega. You know that I rarely (if ever) criticize anyone elses answers and always try to help, I think you have observed this, thank you for your support.

agree  Valeria Carcagno: Sí, de acuerdo con "movements" o como dice smartrans "transactions"
41 mins
  -> Gracias, colega.

agree  Daniel Mencher
10 hrs
  -> Thank you, Dan.
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44 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Los movimientos provisionales no tendrán validez hasta su contabilización después del cierre contabl
Account transactions will not be valid until after the close of business


Explanation:
:-))


Maria J Fernández
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48 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
ayuda con frase
some transaction activity will remain pending until transaction has been completely processed


Explanation:
it usually refers to pending transactions such as when you rent a car and some funds are put on hold. the transaction cannot post until the full amount is processed.

Lydia De Jorge
United States
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Ayuda con frase
temporary/provisional transactions will be valid only if they are posted before the closing date...


Explanation:
I wouldn´t use "movements" here.
The "closing date" does not necessarily occur on a "daily" basis.
They probably refer to a "monthly" closing date.

Giovanni Rengifo
Colombia
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Ayuda con frase
Temporary transactions will not be posted to your account until after the end of the banking day.


Explanation:
This is a common phrase found on banking statements in the U.S.

Arianna Aguilar
Local time: 14:30
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Ayuda con frase
Temporary transactions will not be posted to your account until after the end of the banking day.


Explanation:
This is a common phrase on banking statements in the U.S.

Arianna Aguilar
Local time: 14:30
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Changes made by editors
Feb 21, 2007 - Changes made by Parrot:
Term askedAyuda con frase => Los movimientos provisionales no tendrán validez hasta su contabilización después del cierre contable
Feb 4, 2007 - Changes made by Cor Stephan van Eijden:
Language pairEnglish to Spanish => Spanish to English


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