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11:35 Feb 12, 2009
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Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Government / Politics / MAEC
Spanish term or phrase: nacionalidad no de origen
- En el periodo desde el 29 de diciembre de 2008 al 31 de enero de 2009, se han presentado 8.678 expedientes para el apartado 1) de la Disposición Adicional 7ª de la Ley, correspondientes a hijos; 1.085 correspondientes a nietos del exilio (apartado 2) y 352 de ciudadanos que están utilizando la Ley para pasar de nacionalidad no de origen a nacionalidad de origen (10.115 expedientes presentados en total).

Thanks in advance.
Kate Major
Spain
Local time: 20:33
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Summary of answers provided
4 +5nationality not by birth / acquired nationality
José Manuel Lozano
4 +1naturalized / naturalised nationalityCarlos Segura
4non- nationalkathryn davies
4 -1foreign citizens (and change the sentence)
Peter van der Hoek
3una nacionalidad adoptada
James Arthur Williamson
3alien statusBarbara Cochran, MFA
3 -1foreign nationality
falta


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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
non- national


Explanation:
a possibility

kathryn davies
Local time: 20:33
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
alien status


Explanation:
HTH

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 14:33
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 15
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29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
una nacionalidad adoptada


Explanation:
born here, went there, want back

Example sentence(s):
  • She was born in Burgos but was taken to Russia as a baby. Now, at 92, she wants to abandon her adopted nationality as she feels "Spanish to the core".
James Arthur Williamson
Spain
Local time: 20:33
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
foreign nationality


Explanation:
original nationality vs foreign nationality

falta
Local time: 21:33
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Carlos Segura: Sorry, they are not foreign nationals, they are Spanish nationals. I believe here we have "naturalised nationality vs nationality of origin".
1 hr
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44 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
foreign citizens (and change the sentence)


Explanation:
I would change the sentence to: ... and 352 foreign citizens who are making use of the Law to acquire the Spanish(?) nationality

Good luck with it, Kate!

Peter van der Hoek
Venezuela
Local time: 14:33
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in DutchDutch

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Carlos Segura: Sorry, they are not foreign nationals, they are Spanish nationals. // Thanks, Peter! This is largely symbolic (or self-perpetuating need for funcionarios) Same rights with nationality of origin as with naturalized nationality for Spanish nationals.
1 hr
  -> Point taken, Carlos! I was under the impression that a difference in rights/privileges for naturalized people is against European guidelines.// Thanks for enlightening me, Carlos!
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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
nationality not by birth / acquired nationality


Explanation:
Dado que se trata de contraponer nacionalidad no de origen con nacionalidad de origen, creo que estas dos opciones pueden servir.

pasar de nacionalidad no de origen a nacionalidad de origen = from nationality not by birth / acquired nationality to nationality of origin / nationality by birth

José Manuel Lozano
Local time: 20:33
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  María T. Vargas: In Spain grandchildren of Spaniards were granted the Spanish nationality with favoured conditions as against those for other foreigners. So I'd use your first option rather than "foreigners".
17 mins
  -> Thank you, María

agree  Wil Hardman: first option 'citizenship/nationality otherwise than by birth'. http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/aboutci...
1 hr
  -> Great, thanks for the link

agree  Steven Huddleston: I like "acquired", simple and clear.
4 hrs
  -> Thanks for your comment

agree  Louise Souter
5 hrs

agree  Ronald van der Linden
5 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
naturalized / naturalised nationality


Explanation:
Naturalized nationality: nationality acquired by a foreign national

nacionalidad no de origen - nacionalidad de origen : both categories here refer to Spanish nationals, but this is about naturilized citizens who want their Spanish nationality to be recognized as being the "nationality of origin" (by virtue of place of birth, family...), or in other words, they want to be recognized as having been Spanish nationals all along.

It is not "foreign/alien nationality" as proposed by some collleagues.

Carlos Segura
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:33
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kathryn Litherland: Yes, I think it's talking about people petitioning to be reclassified from naturalized citizens to citizens by birth
18 mins
  -> Yes. Many thanks!
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