a los que les sea de aplicación el regimen comunitario.
English translation: to which the European Union System may be applied
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19:30 Feb 11, 2012
Spanish to English translations [PRO] Social Sciences - Government / Politics
Spanish term or phrase:a los que les sea de aplicación el regimen comunitario.
I am confused about this phrase. Do I have it right?
-Requisitos necesarios:
1. No ser cuidadano de un Estado de la Unión Europea, del Espacio Económico Europeo y de Suiza, or familiar de ciudadanos de estos países, a los que les sea de aplicación el regimen comunitario.
–NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS:
1. The applicant may not be a citizen of a State in the European Union, European Economic Area or Switzerland, or relative of citizen in those countries to which the communal system may be applied.
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Citizens of the EU and their family members have the right to move and reside freely within the territory of the EU, subject to certain conditions.
This right is conferred directly on every EU citizen by Article 21 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
As specified in a Commission directive from 2004 [188 KB] , the following rules apply:
EU citizens can reside on the territory of another EU country for up to three months without any conditions other than the requirement to hold a valid identity card or passport;To reside in another EU country for more than three months, EU citizens are required to meet certain conditions depending on their status (i.e. worker, student, etc.) and may also be required to meet certain administrative formalities;EU citizens can acquire the right to permanent residence in another EU country after legally residing there for a continuous period of five years;The family members of EU citizens have the right to accompany or join them in another EU country, subject to certain conditions.Where can I find more information and assistance?
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Because "regimen" in the context does not simply mean regulations/law. It means an EU system of some kind. We don't have enough context but if you google wou will find example such as EU agricultural refunds system, EU carbon trading system and many others. These are not "laws" but whole systems of inter-member regulatory bureaucracy. Your statement "a person/country is either subject to X regulations/law or they aren't" is no longer true in the context of today's complex legal realities.
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Citizens of the EU and their family members have the right to move and reside freely within the territory of the EU, subject to certain conditions.
This right is conferred directly on every EU citizen by Article 21 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
As specified in a Commission directive from 2004 [188 KB] , the following rules apply:
EU citizens can reside on the territory of another EU country for up to three months without any conditions other than the requirement to hold a valid identity card or passport;To reside in another EU country for more than three months, EU citizens are required to meet certain conditions depending on their status (i.e. worker, student, etc.) and may also be required to meet certain administrative formalities;EU citizens can acquire the right to permanent residence in another EU country after legally residing there for a continuous period of five years;The family members of EU citizens have the right to accompany or join them in another EU country, subject to certain conditions.Where can I find more information and assistance?
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evelyn beltrán United States Local time: 22:28 Specializes in field Native speaker of: English, Spanish PRO pts in category: 4
4 hrs confidence:
[of any country] subject to Community/European Union law
Explanation: I agree that "comunitario" refers to European Community, which has been lowercased because it's used as an adjective - in English we have the luxury of being able to use nouns as premodifiers.
I think it's important to capture the meaning of "regimen" as law or 'legal system'. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
In the translation, I also think it's important to retain the indefinite article; otherwise the meaning isn't clear - hence:
"The applicant may not be a citizen of a State in the European Union, European Economic Area or Switzerland, or related to *a* citizen of any country subject to Community/the European Union legal system."
Actually, 'European Community' is not entirely accurate, though used throughout the world, because it originaly applied only to the European Coal and Steel Community.
Examples of "European Community law/legal system":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_lawCached - Similar
European Union law (historically called "European Community law") is a body of ..... The legal system of the European Union depends heavily on the courts in ...
www.topnotes.org/EC2-3Creation.pdfSimilar
by J Shaw - 1994 - Cited by 52 - Related articles
European Community Law. Topic 2: Institutions and the secondary sources of EC law. Lecture 3 (of 3): Creation, Legal Basis and Interpretation of EC Law. Aim: ...
centers.law.nyu.edu/jeanmonnet/papers/96/9606ind.htmlCached - Similar
CONSTRUCTING THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY LEGAL SYSTEM FROM THE GROUND UP: THE ROLE OF INDIVIDUAL LITIGANTS AND NATIONAL ...
Muriel Vasconcellos United States Local time: 19:28 Specializes in field Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 364
those that are subject to the regulations of the European Community framework
Explanation: This is a tricky word that the Ec itself translates in a number of ways. I'm seen "regime" (I try not to use it), framework (I like it better), scheme (only works sometimes. You could probably say "those that fall within the EC framework" as well. Both European Commission and European Community are notoriously translated as EU without thinking, but I would use community here.
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Sorry for the bad spelling, punctuation, and grammar above. It's late here! Some examples of "framework" with community translated as EU (this is so widespread that you could get away with using EU) can be found at: http://www.linguee.es/ingles-espanol/traduccion/within the f...
Jenni Lukac Local time: 04:28 Specializes in field Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 68
The translation workplace 
peer agreement (net): +2
