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English translation: the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property

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Spanish term or phrase:	las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos
English translation:	the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property
Entered by:	MJ Barber

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19:44 Jan 19, 2006

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History / ecclesiastical history

Spanish term or phrase: las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos

Forzado el abandono tras las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos del pasado siglo, los edificios sufrieron un serio proceso de degradación, a pesar del cuidadoso respeto con que procuraron evitarlo los devotos vecinos.

basically, the monks left because they had no money, and the place was starting to fall down. I need a bit more elegant phrasing ...

MJ Barber KudoZ activity Questions: 1409 (1 open) (21 without valid answers) (61 closed without grading) Answers: 1352
Local time: 04:28

the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property

Explanation:
I've run into this before. Here's a ref. for you:

As the years passed, the liberal campaign against the Catholic faith
in Spain intensified. Beginning in 1835 massive ***disentailment of
ecclesiastical properties and lands*** took place. Once again carried out in the name of efficiency and utilitarianism, this seizure of income-producing property of the Church ultimately forced the Spanish clergy and other religious to economic dependency upon the state.
http://www.ewtn.com/library/HUMANITY/FR90402.TXT

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Note added at 9 mins (2006-01-19 19:54:39 GMT)
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Here's a text about Mexico, but it's the same deal:

Mexico after 1857 confiscated Church property (disentailment or desamortizacion)....
http://latino.si.edu/researchandmuseums/presentations/bhati_...

Selected response from:

xxxtazdog
Spain
Local time: 04:28

Grading comment

I guess desentailment and disendowment would both be fine. I found references to "Mendizabal's disentailment", which was also mentioned in my text, so I will go with this one.
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Summary of answers provided

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the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property

xxxtazdog

the alienation of ecclesistical property

Barbara Cochran

the seizure and sale of church property

translatol

the sale of church property

rosafdz

disendowment (of the Church)

Ana Brassara

Discussion entries: 3

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7 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos

the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property

xxxtazdog
Spain
Local time: 04:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 56

Grading comment

I guess desentailment and disendowment would both be fine. I found references to "Mendizabal's disentailment", which was also mentioned in my text, so I will go with this one.

11 mins confidence:

las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos disendowment (of the Church)

Explanation:
cat2 - [ Traduzca esta página ]
A Glossary of Medieval Welsh Law. Timmothy Lewis. Manchester. ... Disestablishment &
Disendowment of the Church of England In Wales. A Handbook. 1912, £7.00 ...
www.siopymorfa.com/cat2.htm - 60k - En caché - Páginas similares

Literary Encyclopedia: The Lollard Knights - [ Traduzca esta página ]
Glossary · Stylebook · University English ... the miracle of the Eucharist,
translated the Bible into English, and advocated for clerical disendowment. ...
www.litencyc.com/php/stopics.php?rec=true&UID=1529 - 36k - En caché - Páginas similares

Encyclopædia Britannica's Guide to Shakespeare - [ Traduzca esta página ]
The achievements of Gladstone's first administration were several: the disestablishment
and partial disendowment of the Irish church, accomplished in 1869 ...
www.britannica.com/shakespeare/article-44935 -

Ana Brassara
Local time: 23:28
Native speaker of:

Spanish

27 mins confidence:

las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos the sale of church property

Explanation:
Or "the sale of church land and property".

Suerte!

rosafdz
Local time: 04:28
Native speaker of:

Spanish

1 hr confidence:

las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos the seizure and sale of church property

Explanation:
Depends on your readership. This is a more understandable translation for people who aren't experts in Spanish history and a more concrete description of what actually happened.

translatol
Local time: 03:28
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Notes to answerer

Asker: good suggestion too, but I don't believe in talking down to my readership.

1 day9 hrs confidence:

las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos the alienation of ecclesistical property

Explanation:
I saw it referred to in this way in Larousse's Spanish/English Unabridged Dictionary.

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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2006-01-21 05:25:43 GMT)
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Pardonez-moi! I meant "ecclesiastical."

Barbara Cochran
Local time: 22:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English

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