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fundemos nuestro gobierno

English translation: Until our government is founded on popular vote,...


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15:13 Jan 15, 2012
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History / Argentine Histroy
Spanish term or phrase: fundemos nuestro gobierno
Hola!

Estoy traduciendo un documento histórico y cita a Carlos Pellegrini: la oración dice así:
"Reconozcamos que no habrá para nuestro país la posibilidad de progreso político ... mientras no fundemos nuestro gobierno sobre el voto popular"

y la segunda parte de la oración cuando la traduzco suena muy artificial, alguien me puede ayudar?

Mil gracias
SQ
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English translation:Until our government is founded on popular vote,...
Explanation:
Until/Unless our government is founded on popular vote, our country will have no possibility for political progress

Maybe switching the order of the two phrases that make up the sentence will help. Good luck!
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Maya Conlon-Kremer
Local time: 21:29
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Summary of answers provided
4 +6Until our government is founded on popular vote,...
Maya Conlon-Kremer
4 +4our government is not based on popular vote
James A. Walsh
4 +2found our government
Shana Yael Shubs
4we don't found our government on popular votetavi206


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
found our government


Explanation:
until we found our government upon the popular vote

or

until our government is founded upon the popular vote

Shana Yael Shubs
Uruguay
Local time: 23:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Deborah Lockett
6 hrs
  -> Thanks, Deborah.
agree  Helena Chavarria
7 hrs
  -> Thanks, Helena.
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
(no) fundemos nuestro gobierno (sobre el voto popular)
our government is not based on popular vote


Explanation:
Would be my take on it.



    Reference: http://tinyurl.com/8xgvv59
James A. Walsh
Spain
Local time: 04:29
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jenni Lukac: My take as well.
3 mins
  -> Cheers, Jenni. Hope you're having a good one ;-)
agree  Rafael Molina Pulgar
10 mins
  -> Thanks a lot, Rafael :)
agree  Salloz: Or: our government is not founded on popular vote.
34 mins
  -> Yep, that works too. Thanks, Salloz :)
agree  gallagy2: I prefer "founded" as well
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, gallagy :)
neutral  Deborah Lockett: James, this is how they say in Spanish "until" or "unless", please see the other two answers which are correct
6 hrs
  -> Yes, I'm aware of that, Deborah. I think in this case it would be “until”. But I find it ambiguous, and an unnatural way of expressing it in English. My choice of wording essentially means the same thing, and seems more natural to me.
neutral  Shana Yael Shubs: I think this wording is similar to a double negative: thing A will not happen until thing B does not happen, instead of thing A will not happen until thing B happens. The latter seems like a more natural construction to me.
1 day11 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
Until our government is founded on popular vote,...


Explanation:
Until/Unless our government is founded on popular vote, our country will have no possibility for political progress

Maybe switching the order of the two phrases that make up the sentence will help. Good luck!

Maya Conlon-Kremer
Local time: 21:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanksss

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  gallagy2: agree with switching this around
1 hr
agree  Deborah Lockett
5 hrs
agree  Helena Chavarria: You're right. It's written in the subjunctive.
6 hrs
agree  Jill Ananyi: None of the answers are wrong, but this sounds best to me.
9 hrs
agree  Agnes Grand Fay: until our government is based on popular vote
14 hrs
agree  Catherine Gilsenan
22 hrs
neutral  Shana Yael Shubs: I agree with this answer, but it is exactly what I put above.
1 day10 hrs
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
we don't found our government on popular vote


Explanation:
we don't found our government on popular vote

tavi206
Spain
Local time: 04:29
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Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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