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English translation: progressive democrats


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12:37 Jan 21, 2012
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History / radical government
Spanish term or phrase: demócratas progresistas
Hola

Alguien sabe como traducir esto referido a la historia Argentina, periodo 1930, con H. Yrigoyen. El partido democrata progresista estaba liderado en esa época por Lisandro de la Torre.
Muchas gracias
susiq
English translation:progressive democrats
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Simon Bruni
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Local time: 03:29
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4 +7progressive democrats
Simon Bruni
4 +1Democratic Progressives
David Ronder


  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
progressive democrats


Explanation:
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&...

Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:29
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 58
Grading comment
Great! thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Deborah Lockett: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bienio_progresista
11 mins
agree  Charles Davis: The Argentine PDP is actually more often called the "Democratic Progressive Party" in English, but I think "Progressive Democratic Party" is more logical, and "progressive democrats" certainly sounds better than "democratic progressives".
14 mins
agree  liz askew: Prologue to Perón: Argentina in depression and war, 1930-1943 - Google Books Result books.google.com/books?isbn=0520028740...Mark Falcoff, Ronald H. Dolkart - 1975 - Biography & Autobiography - 236 pages The Progressive Democrats had been formed out of an
2 hrs
agree  jude69: ok
3 hrs
agree  Smartranslators
3 hrs
agree  rich.
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agree  Agnes Grand Fay
9 hrs
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Democratic Progressives


Explanation:
It might seem like splitting hairs, but I actually think this would be more correct:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Progressive_Party_(A...

Argentina's Radical Party and Popular Mobilization, 1916-1930 - Google Books Result
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=027103405X...
Joel Horowitz - 2011 - History - 256 pages
By pointing out that supporters carried the Argentine flag, Yrigoyen is arguing ... and the Democratic Progressives walked out of the chamber prior to the vote. ...
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1qAW0XVaXqAC&pg=PA98&lpg=...

The Province of Buenos Aires and Argentine Politics, 1912-1943 - Google Books Result
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0521523338...
Richard J. Walter - 2002 - History - 264 pages
Not affiliating were Lisandro de la Torre's Democratic Progressives and the mainline Partido Socialists, both of which had strongly opposed the Radical ...
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cZ8SGN2JqQYC&pg=PA100&lpg...

Argentine Presidential Election 1916
wn.com/Argentine_presidential_election_1916
Argentine Presidential Election 1916 on WN Network delivers the latest Videos and ... Numerous Democratic Progressives, moreover, became faithless electors ...


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Note added at 20 mins (2012-01-21 12:57:18 GMT)
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Sorry, this is the Wikipedia entry I meant to paste:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Progressive_Party_(A...

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Note added at 22 mins (2012-01-21 12:59:53 GMT)
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Oh, I see it's the same one! If you go to this and then click on "Democratic Progressive Party" it will take you to the right page.

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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2012-01-22 17:01:02 GMT)
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Two more significant references:

1. A contemporary survey of Argentine political parties that calls them the Democratic Progressive party:

http://www.freebase.com/view/base/argentinepolitics/topic

2. And a recently published History of Argentina (Sep 2011) that does so too - you can search the whole text at the bottom of the page, and the reference to the Democratic Progressive Party is on p. 78:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/66477372/A-History-of-Argentina

Rightly or wrongly, Democratic Progressive does seem to be the established term in English.

David Ronder
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 36

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Charles Davis: Well, by convention it is more often put this way round, though on linguistic grounds I think "demócrata progresista" should really be "progressive democrat" rather than "democratic progressive". But many historians do use the latter.
3 mins
  -> Thanks, Charles. Yes, I'm arguing for historical convention here but can see the linguistic logic of what you're saying.
neutral  jude69: i don't think so
2 hrs
  -> Do you not? And do you know better than the historians I've cited?
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