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el libertinaje y el desenfreno de goces matriales, no se haràn sino conglomerado

English translation: ...dissipation and unbridled material pleasures...

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13:46 Jan 22, 2012

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History / Yrigoyen quotation

Spanish term or phrase: el libertinaje y el desenfreno de goces matriales, no se haràn sino conglomerado

Hola:

Sigo con las citas!

La frase dice asì: "De hombres y sociedades sobrios y virtuosos se hacen pueblos libres y focos de civilización, pero de hombres y sociedades dominadas por el libertinaje y el desenfreno de goces materiales , no se harán sino conglomerados expuestos a todas las contingencias y descomposiciones"

mil gracias, estas citas me resultan muy dificiles

susiq

English translation:...dissipation and unbridled material pleasures...

Explanation:
"Of sober and virtuous men and societies, free peoples and centres of civilaition are a consequence. but of men and societies dominated by dissipation and unbridled material pleasures, the only consequence is a jumbled throng exposed to every eventuality and all forms of disintegration"

Selected response from:

Peter Cummings
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:30

Grading comment

Thanks Peter!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +7

profligacy and the licentious indulgence in material pleasures

Carol Gullidge

4 +3

...dissipation and unbridled material pleasures...

Peter Cummings

profligacy and lust for material things

Eileen Banks

icentiousness and uncontrolled enjoyment of material pleasures, nothing but conglomeration

Carol Chua

men and societies dominated by doing as one likes and pursuing material delights lawlessly

Deborah Lockett

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

23 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +7

profligacy and the licentious indulgence in material pleasures

Explanation:
... driven by profligacy and...

NB, you could replace licentious indulgence with over-indulgence.

The rest of the question is a separate question. After all, how would you be able to grade the question if the best responses to each separate half came from 2 separate Answerers?

Carol Gullidge
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:30
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 56

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

gallagy2: yes, should be two questions

2 hrs

-> many thanks gallagy2!

agree

trsk2000: may need a moderator to edit the question and the asker can make another Kudoz entry. This is the best of the bunch however.

2 hrs

-> many thanks Tariq!

agree

liz askew

2 hrs

-> many thanks Liz!

agree

Charles Davis: I would cut "the" -- profligacy and licentious indulgence -- but otherwise perfect! And I quite agree that this is as much as can be expected in one question.

3 hrs

-> many thanks Charles! Inclined to agree re that "the", although I feel it slightly changes the emphasis here. However, wherever possible, I do prefer to opt for fewer words rather than more... :)

agree

rich.

3 hrs

-> many thanks rich!

agree

Beatriz Candil Garcia

4 hrs

-> many thanks Beatriz!

agree

José Alberto

10 hrs

-> many thanks José!

35 mins confidence:

profligacy and lust for material things

Explanation:
Suerte! - Liscenciousness instead of profligacy is an option

Eileen Banks
Argentina
Local time: 23:30
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish

43 mins confidence:

men and societies dominated by doing as one likes and pursuing material delights lawlessly

Explanation:
I've tried to use neutral terms since the author is not "passing judgment" on anyone, just trying to give a warning

Deborah Lockett
Local time: 03:30
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 82

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

...dissipation and unbridled material pleasures...

Peter Cummings
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:30
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Grading comment

Thanks Peter!

1 hr confidence:

icentiousness and uncontrolled enjoyment of material pleasures, nothing but conglomeration

Explanation:
"libertinaje" can be translated directly as libertinism or libertinage, although licentiousness seems to get the point across more accurately given the context of excess and debauchery

Reference: http://www.merriam-webster.com/spanish/libertinaje

Carol Chua
Local time: 04:30
Native speaker of:

Tagalog,

English

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