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Tribucracia

English translation: Tribocracy


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Spanish term or phrase:Tribucracia
English translation:Tribocracy
Entered by: Simon Bruni
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12:47 Sep 1, 2011
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Journalism / Libia
Spanish term or phrase: Tribucracia
Hola colegas estoy traduciendo un artículo acerca de Gadafi y Libia y tengo la palabra tribucracia y no encuentro el equivalente en ingles. Alguna idea? gracias
Mauro Monteverdi
Argentina
Local time: 04:04
Tribocracy
Explanation:
i.e. a country ruled by tribal politics. I don't think this term is 'official' yet in either English or Spanish, but in my mind it works perfectly well as a newly coined word.

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https://paanluelwel2011.wordpress.com/tag/tribocracy/
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Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:04
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Summary of answers provided
4 +9Tribocracy
Simon Bruni
4 +2Tribocracy
Gilla Evans
4 +1a state governed by tribal rule
Jenni Lukac
2Ethnocracy
Jaime Hyland


  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +9
Tribocracy


Explanation:
i.e. a country ruled by tribal politics. I don't think this term is 'official' yet in either English or Spanish, but in my mind it works perfectly well as a newly coined word.

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Note added at 14 mins (2011-09-01 13:02:08 GMT)
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_E...

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Note added at 15 mins (2011-09-01 13:02:50 GMT)
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https://paanluelwel2011.wordpress.com/tag/tribocracy/

Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:04
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mónica Algazi
4 mins
  -> Gracias Mónica
agree  neilmac: Why not. They can always italicise it ... or add Jenni's neat def.
47 mins
  -> Cheers Neil
agree  franglish
1 hr
  -> Thanks Franglish
agree  Gilla Evans: you got there first!
1 hr
  -> Thanks Gilla
agree  cgowar
1 hr
  -> Thanks cgower
neutral  Altogringo: Then what will we call the bureaucracy of a Tribocracy? A Tribocracyocracy? Staffed by Tribocracyocrats? Have mercy on our interpreter brethren/sistren.
1 hr
  -> The problem you mention would be no different to the issue one would have with the accepted terms 'democracy', 'autocracy' etc.
agree  eski: Thanks for expanding my vocabulary, Simon: eski :))
5 hrs
  -> Thanks Eski
agree  philgoddard: This is interesting - I think we're seeing the emergence of a new word, because most of the Google hits are from this year. How did we manage without it? Tribal rule, I suppose.
5 hrs
  -> Thanks Phil. It is interesting, and as translators we are often responsible for propagating new coinages across languages
agree  James A. Walsh: Great word!
6 hrs
agree  anademahomar
12 hrs
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Tribocracy


Explanation:
Seems to be in pretty widespread use in the context.

see for one example among many:

http://paanluelwel2011.wordpress.com/2011/07/23/427/

Gilla Evans
Local time: 08:04
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  cgowar
1 hr
agree  eski: Claro que también vale. Saludos. eski :))
5 hrs
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
a state governed by tribal rule


Explanation:
Perhaps there is a term, but the combination of "tribal" and "ocracy" doesn't exactly slip off the toungue in English, so I'd go by the definition if someone can't come up with a clever translation that sounds natural. "By/through tribal coalition might also work. From Internet: Libia constituye una “tribucracia ”,una coalición de poderosas tribus en su tres principales provincias históricas que,además, compiten entre sí desde el túnel del tiempohttp://analisisdecoyuntura2011-2.blogspot.com/2011/02/articu... www.tribalanalysiscenter.com/PDF.../Pashtun Tribal Dynamics... de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Vista rápida
into a modern nation state, complete with a strong central government. .... have worked hard to avoid integration into a single state governed from Kabul. ...... his plans to modernize the country assembled into a powerful tribal coalition that was ...

Jenni Lukac
Local time: 09:04
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Altogringo: I'm with you. Plainspeak over coinages that could lead to even more convoluted creations. But would tribal interests perhaps be better? Doesn't rule makes it sound like the tribes are governing, whereas Gadafi was governing based on tribal preference?
1 hr
  -> This requires research and a judgement call. "By tribal interests" might be a good solution. The problem with buzz words is that they lack a commonly-accepted definition. What does "tibocracy" exactly mean? It must be qualified if it can't be defined.
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41 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
Ethnocracy


Explanation:
A new coinage too, but one that imo works better in English than "tribocracy". In the context of Libya, however, it could be argued it's less transparent, since the term "tribe" seems to come up a lot on that subject.

Jaime Hyland
Local time: 09:04
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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