Fiscal segundo del Ministerio Público

English translation: 2nd Deputy State Attorney / Prosecutor

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Spanish term or phrase:	Fiscal segundo del Ministerio Público
English translation:	2nd Deputy State Attorney / Prosecutor
Entered by:	Maria

01:30 Jun 8, 2005

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Spanish term or phrase: Fiscal segundo del Ministerio Público

I know this is District Attorney or Prosecutor, but is there a term for "fiscal segundo" under the US legal system... Is this an Assistant to the District Attorney?

Thanks.

Maria KudoZ activity Questions: 307 (none open) (1 closed without grading) Answers: 2695
Local time: 10:10

2nd (Assistant) State Attorney / Prosecutor

Explanation:
Estimada María:

En Venezuela, el Ministerio Público forma parte del Poder Moral, el cual es un poder independiente y distinto del Tribunal Supremo y del Ministerio del Interior y Justicia.

A los fiscales del Ministerio Público se les identifica por números; no estoy absolutamente seguro, pero entiendo que dichos números corresponden al orden cronológico cuando fue creada la Fiscalía correspondiente, y no tienen relación con la jerarquía del funcionario; y en ningún caso corresponden a un turno de trabajo, como se sugirió en una pregunta similar.

El máximo representante del Ministerio Público es el Fiscal General de la República; al Distrito Metropolitano (Caracas y zonas aledañas) y a cada uno de los Estados corresponde una Circunscripción Judicial, cada Circunscripción Judicial puede tener más de un Circuito Judicial. A cada Circunscripción Judicial corresponde un Fiscal Superior, y tantos fiscales como sean necesarios.

También existen numerosos fiscales con jurisdicción en todo el territorio de la nación (entiendo que se corresponden con los “federal attorneys”).

Me parece que en este caso, el cargo/título de Fiscal se corresponde con el de “Assistant State Attorney”, si, como creo, el “State Attorney” se corresponde con el de Fiscal Superior; ambos (el Fiscal y el Fiscal Superior) tienen jurisdicción en todo el Estado, pero evidentemente el Fiscal Superior ocupa la máxima jerarquía en su Circunscripción Judicial.

Yo diría que la siguiente es una traducción bastante aproximada de la función:

Fiscal Segundo del Ministerio Público del Primer Circuito Judicial Penal del Estado de Sucre
 2nd Assistant State Attorney for the First Judicial Circuit of the State of Sucre
 2nd Assistant State Prosecutor for the First Judicial Circuit of the State of Sucre

Sin embargo, lo de “assistant” puede prestarse a cierta confusión, puesto que cada fiscal tiene un fiscal auxiliar.

Para hacer estas equivalencias aproximadas he tomado como referencia la siguiente nota:

Earl Moreland is the State Attorney for the Twelfth Judicial Circuit of Florida. Following service in the United States Marine Corps as a tank platoon commander, Earl began his law enforcement career as a police officer with the Miami Police Department. After being wounded in the line of duty in 1976, Earl completed his Masters Degree in Business Administration and earned a law degree. He joined the Twelfth Judicial Circuit as an Assistant State Attorney in 1981 and he was elected State Attorney in 1988. Earl is married with four sons and a daughter. He is an active member of state, local, and national bar associations as well as the National District Attorneys Association and a member and past president of the Florida Prosecuting Attorneys Association.
http://sao.co.sarasota.fl.us/
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Espero haberte ayudado.

Manuel
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Note added at 1 day 7 mins (2005-06-09 01:37:57 GMT)
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Es “assistant” sólo con respecto al Fiscal Superior, cuya Jurisdicción es todo el Estado, no un Distrito. Él mismo tiene un “assistant” (el fiscal auxiliar”).

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Note added at 1 day 17 mins (2005-06-09 01:48:37 GMT)
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Tomando en cuenta el razonamiento de Flavio, creo que más apropiado “deputy” en lugar de “assistant”:

2nd Deputy State Attorney/Prosecutor for the First Judicial Circuit of the State of Sucre

Selected response from:

Manuel Cedeño Berrueta
Local time: 11:10

Grading comment

A la cama no te irás sin haber aprendido algo más! ;o) Muchísimas gracias, Manuel, por tu respuesta y por haberme educado acerca del sistema legal de Venezuela. Gracias a Flavio por su valiosa ayuda y a todos los que se tomaron el tiempo de responder.
¡Que viva la traducción! ;o)
Maria
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Summary of answers provided

5 +2

assistant attorney general/assistant district attorney

Marcelo González

4 +1

2nd (Assistant) State Attorney / Prosecutor

Manuel Cedeño Berrueta

5 -1

2nd Deputy District Attorney from the Prosecutor's Office

Jeannette Escobar

4 -1

Assistant Procecuting Attorney

Gabo Pena

4 -1

Deputy District Attorney

Flavio Posse

3 -1

Attorney General paralegal assistant

Andrew Vdovin

3 -1

Public Ministry Assistant Prosecutor

Marina Soldati

Discussion entries: 9

Flavio Posse

United States

Muchas gracias Maria y Manuel por sus amables menciones. Me considero gratamente iluminado y tambi�n alagado !!!

04:38 Jun 9, 2005

Flavio Posse

United States

Gracias Maria, ahora que lo veo todo en contexto si entiendo. Si en Venezuela le dicen as� al "Deputy D. A." yo no cambiar�a mi opci�n, "assisstant DDA" es tambi�n viable, pero creo que necesito un Venezolano para que me ilumine a m� tambi�n. Saludos.

22:26 Jun 8, 2005

Non-ProZ.com

Flavio, se trata del fallo emitido por un juez

22:11 Jun 8, 2005

del Circuito Judicial Penal de Sucre (Venezuela) con respecto a un recurso de casaci�n. El p�rrafo completo indica: "El abogado XXX, Fiscal Segundo del Ministerio P�blico del Primer Circuito Judicial Penal del Estado Sucre, fue emplazado como lo prev� el art�culo 457 del C�digo Org�nico Procesal Penal para que contestara los escritos interpuestos por la Defensa de los imputados. No lo hizo y el expediente fue remitido al Tribunal Supremo de Justicia". Por eso creo que se trata de un "District Attorney" o de un "Assistant District Attorney," pero se podr�a tambi�n tratar de que esta es la Divisi�n Segunda de la Fiscal�a de Recursos Criminales. Le mand� una consulta a uno de los traductores de Venezuela a ver si �l nos ilumina ;o)

Flavio Posse

United States

Maria, yo respond� la pregunta del otro d�a a la que Ana hace referencia. Se me hace que esto es distinto pero creo que mas contexto ayudar� a aclararlo.

20:20 Jun 8, 2005

Non-ProZ.com

Gracias, Henry, le mand� un mensaje a

20:02 Jun 8, 2005

Manuel Cede�o para que nos explique c�mo funciona el sistema legal en Venezuela.

Ana Brause

Hace unos d�as creo que hubo una pregunta parecida y el documento tambi�n era de Venezuela. Creo que segundo puede referir a turno (era Fiscal S�ptimo en esa pregunta, si mal no recuerdo). Saludos y suerte!!

11:22 Jun 8, 2005

Henry Hinds

United States

Thanks, that's always critical information for any legal question. Unfortunately I'll pass, because my expertise is Mexico. You might try Manuel Cede�o Berrueta or Alejandro Um�rez, and I know there are more Venezuelans as well out there.

05:33 Jun 8, 2005

Non-ProZ.com

Henry, it's from Venezuela

02:28 Jun 8, 2005

Henry Hinds

United States

Where from? (country). It might have a specific meaning in the country of origin, or just "prosecutor number two".

01:41 Jun 8, 2005

Answers

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Fiscal segundo del Ministerio Público assistant attorney general/assistant district attorney

Explanation:
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Note added at 13 mins (2005-06-08 01:43:46 GMT)
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Since \"Ministerio Público\" might be national in the character (perhaps an equivalent to the US Department of Justice) the first translation might be more appropriate.

http://www.mpfn.gob.pe/

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Note added at 16 mins (2005-06-08 01:47:32 GMT)
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Please excuse the extra \"the\" :-)

Marcelo González
United States
Local time: 05:10
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 202

38 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Fiscal segundo del Ministerio Público Attorney General paralegal assistant

Explanation:
Attorney General paralegal assistant Tina Paige appeared for the employer as an observer. ...
146.63.134.55/workcomp/2001/01-0177.doc

Or just Attorney General's assistant

Attorney General`s Assistant : Mr. Jean
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floridacompetitions.itgo.com/members.htm

But Attorney Assistant General, of course, is much more common.

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Note added at 40 mins (2005-06-08 02:11:18 GMT)
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Oops! Sorry, I meant that the most common is Assistant Attorney General

Andrew Vdovin
Local time: 22:10
Native speaker of:

Russian
PRO pts in category: 7

45 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Assistant Procecuting Attorney

Explanation:
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Gabo Pena
Local time: 08:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 43

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Fiscal segundo del Ministerio Público Public Ministry Assistant Prosecutor

Explanation:
En Argentina no tenemos District Attorneys, todos los fiscales dependen del Ministerio Publico nacional o los provinciales, creo que fiscal segundo se refiere al Assistant Prosecutor. Si es que el documento se refiere a la Republica Argentina

Marina Soldati
Argentina
Local time: 12:10
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 268

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Fiscal segundo del Ministerio Público Deputy District Attorney

Explanation:
Maria, in this case I am not 100% sure, I belieive the case is that, as you well know, there's only one District Attorney (elected) and the rest are all Deputies. Just like, for example, there's only one Sherriff (also elected by the people) and everyone else is a Deputy Sherriff.
Another posibility is that they're talking about a DA that belongs to a certain Division number two or District number two, etc. Your context may help clear this up.

Flavio Posse
United States
Local time: 08:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 368

1 day 3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Fiscal segundo del Ministerio Público

2nd (Assistant) State Attorney / Prosecutor

Manuel Cedeño Berrueta
Local time: 11:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 402

Grading comment

6413 days confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Fiscal Segundo del Ministerio Público 2nd Deputy District Attorney from the Prosecutor's Office

Explanation:
"The Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office is the largest local prosecutorial office in the United States.

Members of the District Attorney’s staff strive to vigorously, effectively and fairly prosecute all those who break laws in Los Angeles County and see that those convicted are appropriately punished.

Nearly 1,000 attorneys, known as deputy district attorneys, prosecute serious crimes called felonies throughout Los Angeles County..."

https://da.lacounty.gov/about/office-overview

Jeannette Escobar
Venezuela
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish

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