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Art/Literary - Law (general) / criminal law- literature | | Spanish term or phrase: historial policial | Por el contrario, Moriarti contaba con un historial policial, ya fuera en solitario, ya fuera haciéndole los coros a sus hermanos, con el que se podía empapelar la Catedral de Burgos.
OK. I have consulted with the author, and this character has never been convicted, however, he does have a long history of arrests, cautions maybe.
How do we say this in UK English? Obviously not "criminal record"...
TIA and felices fiestas. |
|   Kate MajorKudoZ activityQuestions: 587 (none open) ( 29 closed without grading) Answers: 341
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| | police record (or) arrest record | Explanation:
versus "criminal record" or "conviction record"
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In Spain a distinction is made between "antecedentes policiales" ("police record" or "arrest record") and "antecedentes penales" ("criminal record," "conviction record," "criminal history," etc. Your text appears to refer to the former. Here is how the distinction is made (from a Canadian source):
A police record is different from a criminal record. A criminal record will show any convictions a person has received. A police record may show much more information. For example, a police record is created any time you are actively involved with the police. Even if you have never been charged or convicted of an offense but were questioned by the police there may be a police record. If the police take you to a hospital or if they transfer you between hospitals, there may be a police record.
http://www.ppao.gov.on.ca/sys-pol.html
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Just for info, it is often possible to achieve the expungement of a criminal (conviction) record (called "cancelación de antecedentes penales") kept on file at the Ministry of Justice’s Registro Central de Penados y Rebeldes (called “Criminal Records Bureau” in England). And likewise, applications to expunge police records ("cancelar antecedentes policiales") held in the databases of both the Guardia Civil and Policía Nacional may be made through the Interior Ministry.
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To add a comment to Carmen's suggestion: I believe "rap sheet" may not be an appropriate translation of "historial policial" (or "antecedentes policiales"), since "rap sheet" is a slang term for "a person's criminal record" (Black's Law Dictionary) and "criminal record" = "criminal history" ("antecedentes penales") and includes a record of convictions.
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Looking again at your context, the idea is that there are enough pages in Moriart's police record to wall-paper the Burgos Cathedral. |
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| Grading comment Great answer and explanation, Rebecca. All the answers were useful, but the narrator and author are lawyers, so I needed something legally accurate. Thanks everyone! :)
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6 hrs confidence: peer agreement (net): +1 has had many brushes with law enforcement
Explanation:
This would be an option reaching toward the less formal wording, even to slang, for your context. The Query as submitted does not support this informal a rendition, but I suggest it in case it might serve your context, given your comments throughout this discussion.
Also, I concurr with Carmens suggestion of 'rap sheet' in this context: "He has a rap sheet long enough to wallpaper the Catedral de Burgos!!" Also very slangy, but it may serve your purpose for the source.
Hope it helps. Merry Christmas!
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1 hr confidence: peer agreement (net): +11 police record (or) arrest record
Explanation:
versus "criminal record" or "conviction record"
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-12-24 10:18:13 GMT)
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In Spain a distinction is made between "antecedentes policiales" ("police record" or "arrest record") and "antecedentes penales" ("criminal record," "conviction record," "criminal history," etc. Your text appears to refer to the former. Here is how the distinction is made (from a Canadian source):
A police record is different from a criminal record. A criminal record will show any convictions a person has received. A police record may show much more information. For example, a police record is created any time you are actively involved with the police. Even if you have never been charged or convicted of an offense but were questioned by the police there may be a police record. If the police take you to a hospital or if they transfer you between hospitals, there may be a police record.
http://www.ppao.gov.on.ca/sys-pol.html
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-12-24 10:23:26 GMT)
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Just for info, it is often possible to achieve the expungement of a criminal (conviction) record (called "cancelación de antecedentes penales") kept on file at the Ministry of Justice’s Registro Central de Penados y Rebeldes (called “Criminal Records Bureau” in England). And likewise, applications to expunge police records ("cancelar antecedentes policiales") held in the databases of both the Guardia Civil and Policía Nacional may be made through the Interior Ministry.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-12-24 12:15:19 GMT)
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To add a comment to Carmen's suggestion: I believe "rap sheet" may not be an appropriate translation of "historial policial" (or "antecedentes policiales"), since "rap sheet" is a slang term for "a person's criminal record" (Black's Law Dictionary) and "criminal record" = "criminal history" ("antecedentes penales") and includes a record of convictions.
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Looking again at your context, the idea is that there are enough pages in Moriart's police record to wall-paper the Burgos Cathedral.
| Rebecca Jowers
Spain
Local time: 15:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:  English
PRO pts in category: 1712
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| | Grading comment | Great answer and explanation, Rebecca. All the answers were useful, but the narrator and author are lawyers, so I needed something legally accurate. Thanks everyone! :) |
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