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Ateneos Médicos

English translation: Grand rounds


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Spanish term or phrase:Ateneos Médicos
English translation:Grand rounds
Entered by: Vero13482
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18:37 Oct 17, 2006
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical: Health Care / Capacitación
Spanish term or phrase: Ateneos Médicos
¿Es posible que corresponda al término "Medical Grand Rounds"? Acá va en contexto: Curso Anual de Ateneos Médicos. Help please!
Vero13482
Local time: 05:23
Ground rounds
Explanation:
please see proz ref:http://www.proz.com/glossary-translations/english-to-spanish...
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Edward Tully
Local time: 10:23
Grading comment
Coincido con respecto a 'ground rounds', definitivamente 'grand rounds' es el término. Gracias
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Summary of answers provided
5Medical/Clinical Case Studies
Dr. Jason Faulkner
4 -1Ground rounds
Edward Tully
4 -1Medical associations
Nora Bellettieri
1 +1GRAND roundsDavid Brown


Discussion entries: 5





  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Medical associations


Explanation:
Simon and Schuster's International Dictionary

Nora Bellettieri
Local time: 05:23
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Irina Dicovsky: Los ateneos médicos son reuniones clínicas donde se discuten los casos, no asociaciones médicas.
2 hrs
  -> OK
neutral  Dr. Jason Faulkner: Sometimes this is correct, but not in this context.
1 day10 hrs
  -> OK
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Ground rounds


Explanation:
please see proz ref:http://www.proz.com/glossary-translations/english-to-spanish...

Edward Tully
Local time: 10:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 55
Grading comment
Coincido con respecto a 'ground rounds', definitivamente 'grand rounds' es el término. Gracias

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  liz askew: never heard of it on this side of the Atlantic!
2 hrs
disagree  Dr. Jason Faulkner: A mistranslation that has grown like a virus on the internet. Definitely not ground. Ground round is hamburger meat.
1 day10 hrs
  -> must be a virus that has spread to hospitals in the UK too!
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5 peer agreement (net): +1
GRAND rounds


Explanation:
practical experience in Spanish and English

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Note added at 13 hrs (2006-10-18 07:39:05 GMT)
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The course additionally includes annual grand rounds, and ongoing individually structured small learning groups, designed to offer additional in-depth and ...
www.gwish.org/id61.htm - 52k -

Each year, HICRC faculty help teach the Harvard Medical School course on ... Harvard School of Public Health, 7th Annual Grand Rounds, on Adolescent Gun ...
www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/archives.html - 75k

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Note added at 13 hrs (2006-10-18 08:18:30 GMT)
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see this page for another blatant example:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=...



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Note added at 13 hrs (2006-10-18 08:20:04 GMT)
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and another

http://www.mediasite.com/?q=ground+rounds

David Brown
Local time: 10:23
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 105

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Roxanna Delgado: That's how I know them./Sounds good to me, and very true.Regarding the question, your links say "Annual grand rounds" which match the "anual" part of the question. So I think this is the one in this context.
18 hrs
  -> Thank you, Roxanna, it's knowledge that counts® (maybe I should use that as my catchline)
disagree  Dr. Jason Faulkner: Grand rounds (pase de visita in Spanish) involves the medical staff going from room to room reviewing each patient. A different concept.
21 hrs
  -> I know that "teaching ward rounds" are sometimes called "grand rounds" but in this translation question, it is Grand Round
agree  Irina Dicovsky: Searched medline, and you´re right!http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/16336139?queryText=... rounds; http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/14660428?queryText=... rounds; if u can´t log in I´ll send them by email.
1 day4 hrs
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1 day10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Medical/Clinical Case Studies


Explanation:
This is a weekly, or biweekly event (sadly, sometimes even less frequent) where physicians meet in a classroom/auditorium and discuss a particular case in excruciating detail. This differs from Grand Rounds, where the physicians round on all (or most) patients and the cases are discussed briefly, with special attention paid to the intersting cases.

To put it in a nutshell, grand rounds are a sort of inventory of all the patients that are hospitalized. The patients are still right there in the bed and under treatment. Case studies are of a single case, almost exclusively once the patient has long been discharged, sometimes from a completely different hospital. This allows 20/20 hindsight so that the different treatment decisions can be critiqued. It's more of a classroom type exercise.

Ateneos Medicos can also refer to professional associations, specialist boards, (American College of Surgeons, for example), etc., though it's not very common in modern use.

Dr. Jason Faulkner
Local time: 02:23
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 136

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  David Brown: I know "teaching ward rounds" are called sometimes called "grand rounds" in the USA, but in the context of the translation it is Grand Round
2 hrs
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