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English translation: irrespective of the amino acid residue at position 217

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Spanish term or phrase:	indistinto
English translation:	irrespective of the amino acid residue at position 217
Entered by:	Claire Culliford

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21:53 Nov 7, 2009

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Medical - Medical (general) / Infectious Pancreatic Necrosis Virus

Spanish term or phrase: indistinto

The term is part of the following phrase:

Recientemente, Song et al. [49], definieron que los residuos 217 y 221 son los principales determinantes de virulencia y que bajo ciertas combinaciones presentan variación; cepas que codifican Thr-217 y Ala-221 serían muy virulentas; las que codifican Pro-217 y Ala-221 medianamente virulentas, y las cepas que codifican Thr-221 e indistinto 217 avirulentas, descartando al residuo Thr/Ala-247 como factor importante de virulencia.

The meanings I'm aware of for this term include 'indistinct', 'indiscriminate', 'immaterial' and 'individual' but I feel sure I'm missing something and that none of these is correct in this context. If it is, can explain to me why?

Claire Culliford KudoZ activity Questions: 65 (none open) (10 closed without grading) Answers: 23
Local time: 20:40

irrespective of the amino acid residue at position 217

Explanation:
Molecular Determinants of Infectious Pancreatic Necrosis Virus ...
VP5, both encoding Thr at residue 221, form a separate, almost avirulent group, irrespective of the amino acid residue at position 217 (Table 1). ...
jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/full/79/.../10289?... - Similare

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Sara Brown
Argentina
Local time: 17:40

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3 +2

irrespective of the amino acid residue at position 217

Sara Brown

vaguely

Lucinda

indistinguishable

liz askew

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	liz askew

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peer agreement (net): +2

irrespective of the amino acid residue at position 217

Sara Brown
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Grading comment

Thanks!

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks Sara. Needless to say, I'd been looking for a nice 'one word' translation when of course I should have known better, especially with this being a medical/scientific piece. Your answer makes a lot of sense.

Asker: Thanks Sara, in the end the client was happiest with this option.

13 hrs confidence:

vaguely

Explanation:
I am thinking 'vaguely'

I keep thinking that the passage you quoted has to do with veterinary medicine. However, I am not completely sure.

*** Thr-221 and vaguely 217 avirulent***

Good luck!
Lucinda

Lucinda
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Asker: Thanks Lucinda. In the end the client opted for the rather longer response of 'irrespective of the amino acid residue at position 217'. Who was I to argue :-)?

17 hrs confidence:

indistinguishable

Explanation:
Avirulent strains, diphtheriae. lysate preparation. previously ...
strains were antigenic- ally homologous is not inconsistent. Serologically indistinguishable virulent and avirulent strains of C. diphtheriae ...
jb.asm.org/cgi/reprint/63/3/407.pdf - Similar
by VJ FREEMAN - Cited by 56 - Related articles - All 4 versions

based on the fact I think that "resultaron" is missing from your sentence.

Hope this helps resolve the problem.

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VI.-Capítulo 2
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ten «unos» como «ceros», ya que la codifica- ción que se les asigna es indistinta. Un índice recomendable por su simplici- dad es el de Simple Matching o de ...
www.inta.gov.ar/ediciones/2004/biotec/parte6_cap2.pdf - Similar

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Could be way off target here, but if the "resultaron" IS missing, this must change the meaning...
saludos!

liz askew
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Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks Liz. In the end the client opted for the rather longer response of 'irrespective of the amino acid residue at position 217'. Who was I to argue :-)?

Reference comments

17 hrs

Reference

Reference information:
Hi
Is there something missing in your phrase as I found

....indistinto resultaron avirulantas

Archivos de medicina veterinaria - Factores asociados a la ...
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Así, los virus que codifican Thr en 217 y Ala en 221 fueron muy virulentos; ... las cepas que codifican Thr en residuo 221 e indistinto 217 resultaron avirulentas, .... El frecuente cambio de Ala por Thr en el residuo 221 en cepas IPNV ...
www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?pid=S0301...script=sci_arttext - Cached - Similar
by C Ortega - 2007 - Related articles - All 6 versions

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Proteína VP2. Por comparación en la secuencia de aminoácidos (aa) de varios aislados de campo de distinto nivel de mortalidad en crías de salmón del Atlántico se identificaron los motivos putativos implicados en la virulencia de cepas Sp. Las cepas virulentas típicamente codifican una VP5 de 12 kDa y tienen residuos Thr, Ala, Thr/Ala, y Tyr/His en las posiciones 217, 221, 247 y 500 respectivamente, en el gen de VP2 (Santi y col 2004). Song y col (2005) realizando un desafío con varias cepas recombinantes de IPNV determinaron que los residuos 217 y 221 de VP2 son los determinantes de virulencia en cepas Sp, y que bajo ciertas combinaciones presentan variación. Así, los virus que codifican Thr en 217 y Ala en 221 fueron muy virulentos; las cepas que codifican Pro en 217 y Ala en 221 fueron medianamente virulentas, y las cepas que codifican Thr en residuo 221 e indistinto 217 resultaron avirulentas, y descartando también al residuo 247 con Thr/Ala como factor importante en la virulencia. No obstante, cepas escocesas con residuos Pro217 y Ala221 en VP2 presentaron virulencia similar a las cepas con Thr en 217 y Ala en 221 (Smail y col 2006), por lo que en infecciones in vivo factores asociados al huésped, origen y condiciones ambientales podrían influir en la virulencia (Santi y col, 2004).

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are they talking about

indistinguishable strains here??

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=strains indi...

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Hi Claire
Thanks for your answer about your client.

I still cannot get my head round this, particularly in light of the findings with "resultaron".....

BTW
I still don't understand the final chosen answer, glad the client does.

liz askew
United Kingdom
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English
PRO pts in category: 2313

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