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Signos de témpano

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Spanish term or phrase:	Signos de témpano
English translation:	iceberg signs
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23:56 Nov 12, 2009

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Medical - Medical (general) / Resonancia magnética de rodilla

Spanish term or phrase: Signos de témpano

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Quisiera saber cómo se le dice a este término en inglés. EStá incluido en un informe médico de una resonancia magnética de rodilla, donde se observa fractura:

AL EXAMEN FÍSICO: Se evidencia aumento de volumen de la rodilla izquierda, con efusión (+), signos de témpano (+), crepitación patelar, imposibilidad para la extensión de la pierna.

Gracias por su ayuda.

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iceberg signs

Explanation:
Pls see, among others:

Classic radiologic signs: an atlas and history - Google Books Resultby Michael E. Mulligan - 1997 - Medical - 198 pages
In search of the elusive benign cystic ovarian teratoma: application of the ultrasound 'tip of the iceberg' sign. J. din. Ultrasound, 5, 403-6 2. ...
books.google.es/books?isbn=1850706646...

The chest x-ray: differential diagnosis in conventional radiology - Google Books Resultby Francis A. Burgener, Martti Kormano, Tomi Pudas - 2006 - Medical - 208 pages
Lack of downward convergence of the lower border of such a lesion (iceberg sign, Fig. 2.4) indicates that a considerable portion of the mass is in the ...
books.google.es/books?isbn=3131076127...

The “Tip of the Iceberg” Sign1iceberg sign is readily identified on both transabdominal and transvaginal. US scans ... Tip of the iceberg sign seen on an endovagi- nal US scan obtained ...
radiology.rsnajnls.org/cgi/reprint/209/2/395.pdf - Similar

Radiographic, CT and MRI spectrum of hydatid disease of the chest ...b Chest radiograph 2 weeks later: "iceberg sign" indicating col- lapsed parasitic membranes which are partially submerged (arrows). ...
www.springerlink.com/index/V3866V1N1753V523.pdf - Similar
by WN Sinner - 1993 - Cited by 6 - Related articles

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margaret caulfield
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Thanks :)
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iceberg signs

margaret caulfield

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Floating kneecap/ Floating patella

Anne Smith Campbell

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signs of tympanites /distension/swelling

Richard Boulter

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	liz askew

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iceberg signs

margaret caulfield
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Thanks :)

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signs of tympanites /distension/swelling

Explanation:
Tabers Medical Dictionary (monolingual) gives these expressions as stand-alone terms, though the related terms in bilingual dictionaries ([prefix] tympano-, tympanum, & tympany) refer repectively and specifically to the 'eardrum' and to 'abdominal distension due to gas or liquid'.

Still, as a generality I could see the physician referring to 'swelling/distension' as 'signos de timpano' in the knee, due to build-up of liquid. Especially over the kneecap (rotulo) this might be appropriate for him to say, in case that context appears in your source text.
Best of luck!

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OOPs! I hit the enter button.
The term in the query is 'tempano', with the root meaning of 'drumhead' or 'stretched flexible surface'. But other takes in the dictionary come out with a connotation of 'fragments', as Margaret's 'iceburg' is a fragment of a glacier and a 'slice of bacon' is a portion of a backstrap of meat. So you could look in the source context at possible 'fragmentation/particulation' of cartilege in the knee injury.

Richard Boulter
United States
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Floating kneecap/ Floating patella

Explanation:
Also heard of as "floating patella". That is, as I understand, talking about the knee articulation.

I do know that "signo del témpano" means the movement of the patellar as of a floating nature. See the example of an explanation of "signo del témpano" here:

"Signo del témpano: con ambos dedos índices comprimir la rótula hacia la articulación femorotibial y sentir si hay rebote, como si la rótula estuviera "flotando" ."
Bajo el apartado de "rodilla".
http://escuela.med.puc.cl/Publ/ManualSemiologia/ArticulyColu...

I can honestly find the familiar version of this, as "floating kneecap" syndrome, if it were a more technical information probably it would be better to say "floating patella".

"a patella riding high on effusion of the knee"
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Floating_patella
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/floating pat...

Hope it helps.

Anne Smith Campbell
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Manual de Semiología
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flexión: hasta 90º con la rodilla extendida y 120º con la rodilla flexionada. ... Signo del témpano: con ambos dedos índices comprimir la rótula hacia la ...
escuela.med.puc.cl/Publ/.../ArticulyColum.html - Cached – Similar

# Signo del témpano: con ambos dedos índices comprimir la rótula hacia la articulación femorotibial y sentir si hay rebote, como si la rótula estuviera "flotando"
# Signo de la ola: con el dorso de la mano se comprime el fondo de saco de un lado de la rodilla, y se observa abombamiento contralateral.

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ARTRITIS SEPTICA
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Si la rodilla es la comprometida, los signos inflamatorios son evidentes y el ... evidenciar por el signo del témpano o del choque rotuliano; la rodilla ... si al colocar una gota entre pulgar e índice, se separan los dedos por más de ...
escuela.med.puc.cl/publ/.../Trau_Secc03/Trau_Sec03_01.html - Cached

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see

iceberg sign
Thoraco-abdominal sign Imaging A sharply-demarcated radiopacity seen in plain films of the chest or abdomen that may be either sub- or supradiaphragmatic, corresponding to a paravertebral TB abscess, aneurysm, esophagogastric lesion or the azygous continuation of the inferior vena cava

liz askew
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