Spanish to English translations [PRO] Art/Literary - Music / Musical terms
Spanish term or phrase:"cifrado" y "partitura"
The phrase goes like this:
"Convertir el cifrado en tumbao desde una partitura."
The illustration of the "cifrado" shows a very basic piano score with half-notes (blancas) written only for the left hand, and the note names written above each note (C, F, G, F)
Below the "cifrado" is the actual score, written for both hands and with full chords.
So, if the "partitura" is "score", what is the English (US) word for "cifrado"? I probably know the word, but have not been able to find a translation for the musical "cifrado" in any of my dictionaries.
George Rabel (asker): 1:30am Oct 5, 2004: Got you. Thanks for your prompt help, but what about "cifrado" as a noun, rather than an adjective, as in "figured bass"?
Plain old "figured" does not sound like a noun to me.
See the phrase again:
Convertir el cifrado en tumbao desde una partitura
Turn the _________into a tumbao starting from a score Ana Juliá: 7:36am Oct 5, 2004: Puedes usar "figured bass", ya que las notas están en la mano izquierda (son la voz más baja de la armonía) y las notas que aparecen encima son los acordes que hay que construir sobre esas notas. Cifrado aquí es "bajo cifrado". - George Rabel (asker): 10:57am Oct 5, 2004: Muchas gracias, Ana. Es cierto lo que dices. Solo estoy renuente a utilizar la palabra "bass" porque en muchas de las partituras completas para varios instrumentos aparece la notacion para "electric bass" y queria evitar confusiones, ya que este cifrado especifico es de piano, pero si no existe un vocablo sencillo en ingles para denotar la palabra "cifrado", pues no me quedara otro remedio. Que tal eso de "key signature" que propone Pablo? Ana Juliá: 11:04am Oct 5, 2004: En mi opinión, key signature no tiene nada que ver. Sería el equivalente de "armadura", los bemoles o sostenidos que aparecen después de la clave para indicar la tonalidad de toda la partitura. http://cnx.rice.edu/content/m10881/latest - Ana Juliá: 11:05am Oct 5, 2004: No creo que se pueda confundir el "bass" de electric bass y el de figured bass, sobre todo si uno entiende de música. No te preocupes. -
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Aquí está la definición de \"cifrado\":
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El cifrado americano es un método sencillo de representación de acordes
y escalas por medio de letras. Este cifrado, consiste ... www.cmtv.com.ar/tabla/cifrado.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
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Aquí está la definición de \"cifrado\":
CM el portal de la música - [ Translate this page ]
El cifrado americano es un método sencillo de representación de acordes
y escalas por medio de letras. Este cifrado, consiste ... www.cmtv.com.ar/tabla/cifrado.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
Michael Powers (PhD) United States Works in field Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 48
Note from asker to answerer
Thank you, Mike, Deborah and all. I will take my chances and use "figured bass".
Explanation: La tercer oración "Below the "cifrado"" da a entender que "cifrado" es el cifrado tonal (key signature) expresado en letras y números sobre la partitura.
La segunda oración parece referirse al cifrado tonal expresado en la partitura como bemoles o sostenidos, a la derecha de la clave.
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After seeing your questions, I wonder if what you are describing is what is called a \"lead sheet\" -- a sheet of just the main notes of a piece of music and from which a pianist or other musician improvises. If I understand correctly, the objective is to create a lead sheet from a full score. Just an idea since it seems that the traditional meanings aren\'t working. See http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&as_qd...
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As you will see from the link above, the \"lead sheet\" is also a teaching device and contains not just lead notes but lead chords. Since what happens in the bass determines what happens in the piece, it is possible that the sheet could show only the left hand.
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I think I may have muddied my own explanation by referring to the bass. There are bass lead sheets but the clef really doesn\'t matter. The point is that it\'s bare bones. This link contains a description of the process I think is described in your text. It happens that this author\'s example focuses on the treble clef, but you don\'t say what clef the left hand is in, so perhaps this example works. http://members.dancris.com/~bfraser/etc/DomainRules.html
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In the link, the example is in lesson 4.
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If this suits your context, CIFRADO Y PARTITURA then mean LEAD SHEET AND SCORE.
Deborah Workman United States Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 12
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