filiar

English translation: discern the filiation of/ map the roots of his/their personal belief system

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Spanish term or phrase:	filiar
English translation:	discern the filiation of/ map the roots of his/their personal belief system
Entered by:	Elizabeth Medina

01:21 Oct 27, 2007

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Philosophy

Spanish term or phrase: filiar

Es de Ortega y Gasset (La Historia como Sistema): “El diagnóstico de una existencia humana —de un hombre, de un pueblo, de una época— tiene que comenzar _filiando_ el sistema de sus convicciones y para ello, antes que nada, fijando su creencia fundamental, la decisiva, la que porta y vivifica todas las demás” .

Elizabeth Medina KudoZ activity Questions: 149 (none open) (1 without valid answers) (12 closed without grading) Answers: 789
Local time: 05:32

chart the ancestry / discern the filiation / map the roots

Explanation:
:)

Selected response from:

Salloz
Mexico
Local time: 03:32

Grading comment

Gracias a todos, realmente se pasaron!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +3

establishing the connections

MarinaM

4 +2

- must start by mapping out his or its belief system and establishing the connections

Bubo Coroman (X)

4 +1

tracing/acknowledging the roots/origin

Marian Martin (X)

chart the ancestry / discern the filiation / map the roots

Salloz

gathering/connecting

tenis

taking down the particulars

Michael Powers (PhD)

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

2 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

establishing the connections

Explanation:
my option

MarinaM
Argentina
Local time: 06:32
Works in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 12

Notes to answerer

Asker: establishing the connections with his belief system? can you suggest an alternative? thanks!

Asker: Gracias Marina, me ayuda mucho tu explicación, hasta aquí es la más esclarecedora.

Asker: The final answer is the combination of yours, Deborah's, M. Martin's and Salloz's but I can only pick one!

6 mins confidence:

gathering/connecting

Explanation:
mi contribución...

tenis
Local time: 06:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish

Notes to answerer

Asker: Gracias de todas maneras!

31 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

tracing/acknowledging the roots/origin

Explanation:
Another option.
Explanation:
The individual or peoples have to start by identifying their personal belief system or worldview, and putting it within the scope of some kind of established theoretical framework, from which it is derived or with which it complies.This is how I understand it.Suerte.

Marian Martin (X)
Spain
Local time: 11:32
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish

Notes to answerer

Asker: Very helpful as well, thank you.

44 mins confidence:

chart the ancestry / discern the filiation / map the roots

Explanation:
:)

Salloz
Mexico
Local time: 03:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Gracias a todos, realmente se pasaron!

Notes to answerer

Asker: Discern the filiation of/map the roots of his belief system...excelente, se pasó.

5 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

- must start by mapping out his or its belief system and establishing the connections

Explanation:
I support Marina's answer and have expanded it in a way that I hope makes it clearer.

for "creencia fundamental" (further down) you could put "core belief".

Bubo Coroman (X)
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 52

Notes to answerer

Asker: Excellent contribution Deborah, thank you!

4 mins confidence:

taking down the particulars

Explanation:
Oxford

filiar ÞA1 vt to take down the particulars of

taking down the particular of the convictions ...

Mike :)

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Note added at 16 mins (2007-10-27 01:38:14 GMT)
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Certainly, be happy to.

The diagnosis of human existence, - of man, of a people, of a period of time - has to begin - taking down the particulars (getting down to the nitty gritty, going into the details) - from the system of one's convictions for that purpose, primordially, basing your essential belief, the decisive one, which will carry it and revitalize all the others ...

Mike :)

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Note added at 34 mins (2007-10-27 01:56:26 GMT)
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Hopefully this example will be clearer. "To take down the particulars" means to write down all the details. In this case, this is the first step ("tiene que comenzar") in order to be arrive to the corresponding convictions.

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Kelsey Brooke Jones
In other words, if your kid goes missing, the police have to take down the particulars and file a proper report as soon as you go to them. ...
www.snopes.com/inboxer/children/kelsey.htm - Similar pages - Note this

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Note added at 37 mins (2007-10-27 01:58:57 GMT)
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Note in the second one that follow that the particulars are taken down in order to make the investigation:

The Goal
I mean, I didn't just call you to talk philosophy." He smiles. ...... a pad of paper to take down the particulars on whatever order is causing us grief. ...
www.scribd.com/doc/203351/The-Goal- - 742k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
Mark's Blog : Sony, Rootkits and Digital Rights Management Gone ...
Personally, I like the philosophy of MP3tunes.com including the decent ...... They will take down the particulars and make any investigation required. ...
blogs.technet.com/.../archive/2005/10/31/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights-management-gone-too-far.aspx - 541k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

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Note added at 11 hrs (2007-10-27 12:56:48 GMT)
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Good - I glad I was able to clarify it. - MIke :)

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 05:32
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 24

Notes to answerer

Asker: I don't understand, can U explain further?

Asker: Thanks Mike, this clarified your suggestion.

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