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Spanish term or phrase:	desarmadero de Descartes
English translation:	Descartes's deconstruction
Entered by:	Rita Tepper

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7:00pm May 8, 2008

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Science - Philosophy / Lógica y filosofía médica

Spanish term or phrase: desarmadero de Descartes

En un artículo sobre medicina y lógica:
De paso recordemos que en el desarmadero de Descartes no se halló la conciencia.

Rita Tepper

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Argentina

Descartes's deconstruction

Explanation:
This might be a possibility but I'd need more context to know for sure:

Whereas Descartes deconstructed and rebuilt, Locke's project is to explain; explain the genesis of our ideas, how they relate to substance, and the extent ...
radicalacademy.com/studentrefphil_kjones9.htm

Descartes went on a deconstruction trip, proving that he knew almost nothing ... Descartes' method of deconstruction depended upon the fact that he could ...
www.everything2.net/e2node/Descartes%2520was%2520wrong

in the Regulae, Descartes deconstructs Aristotelian. ou’sıá only to the extent that he needs in order to construct the ...
www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-2265.2005....

... 'make us imagine many events possible that are not so'. Descartes deconstructs himself. Judovitz brings out another fatal consequence of this ignoring of.
books.google.com/books?isbn=0415037484

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Patricia Rosas
United States

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Thank you Patrica, and thanks everybody for the reaseach!
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Descartes's deconstruction

Patricia Rosas

3 +1

see

liz askew

Descartes’ Meditationes*

Gert Sass (M.A.)

yard sale/ garage sale

Claudia Pesce

Descartes scrapyard

bcsantos

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24 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

Descartes's deconstruction

Explanation:
This might be a possibility but I'd need more context to know for sure:

Whereas Descartes deconstructed and rebuilt, Locke's project is to explain; explain the genesis of our ideas, how they relate to substance, and the extent ...
radicalacademy.com/studentrefphil_kjones9.htm

Descartes went on a deconstruction trip, proving that he knew almost nothing ... Descartes' method of deconstruction depended upon the fact that he could ...
www.everything2.net/e2node/Descartes%2520was%2520wrong

in the Regulae, Descartes deconstructs Aristotelian. ou’sıá only to the extent that he needs in order to construct the ...
www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-2265.2005....

... 'make us imagine many events possible that are not so'. Descartes deconstructs himself. Judovitz brings out another fatal consequence of this ignoring of.
books.google.com/books?isbn=0415037484

Patricia Rosas
United States
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Note from asker to answerer

Thank you Patrica, and thanks everybody for the reaseach!

1 hr confidence:

Descartes scrapyard

Explanation:
Where you can find bits and pieces of different objects.

bcsantos
Gibraltar
Native speaker of:

English

28 mins confidence:

yard sale/ garage sale

Explanation:
Yo sé que un desarmadero es el lugar donde se desarman automóviles y otros vehiculos para rescatar aquellas partes que se pueden volver a usar/vender. Yo sugiero algo parecido, "garage sale" o "yard sale", porque ahí también se venden objetos descartados, que les resultan útiles a otros. Creo que se puede usar en el contexto y decir algo así como: "They never found a conscience in Descartes´s garage/yard sale". Just an idea! Suerte :D

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But are they refering to "conciencia" as "moral conscience" or "self-awareness"???

Claudia Pesce
Argentina
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Notes to answerer

Asker: Speaking about Descartes and philosophy, shouldn't it be consciousness instead of conscience?

14 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

see

Explanation:
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:99JNYVD7w7MJ:www.proz.c...

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Relationality: From Attachment to Intersubjectivity - Google Books Result
by Stephen A. Mitchell - 2000 - Psychology - 173 pages
Most historians of philosophy date the modern philosophical era at the point when Descartes dismantled and called into question everything he knew, ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0881634174...

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The Atlantic Online | June 2006 | The Management Myth | Matth...
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hierarchy,” said über-guru Tom Peters, with characteristic understatement. .... students of philosophy know, Descartes dismantled the edifice of medieval ...
pareto.uab.es/fsancho/The%20Management%20Myth.pdf - Similar pages
Building Communication Theories: A Socio/Cultural Approach by Fred ...
Recognizing the synergy...hierarchy of knowledge, when philosophy gave way more ... As students of philosophy know, Descartes dismantled the edifice of ...
www.questia.com/library/book/building-communication-theorie... - Similar pages

dismantled edifice of

difficult one

hope this gives you some ideas :-)

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Don't know much about Rene but

how about

Descartes' dismantled edifice of metaphysics

If he didn't believe in the conscience/soul?

or is that just a bit too heavy?

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You could well be right about "consciousness", Rita, it did occur to me, but being in a rush earlier, I didn't really pursue this further...

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Yep

of course you're right, Rita

http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozi...

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I don't mean to be flippant, but I find this philosophy a bit of a dead end!

Also my ex-husband taught this sort of stuff, so it has always put me off this type of philosophy! :-)

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Do you know, I get that feeling too when I am translating some stuff into English.

Just because we translate doesn't mean we always understand, eh?

Bye and good luck with this!

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of:

English

Notes to answerer

Asker: Speaking about Descartes and philosophy, shouldn't it be consciousness instead of conscience?

Asker: Don't worry, I don't understand a word of what I am translating, seems like Chinese!

5 hrs confidence:

Descartes’ Meditationes*

Explanation:
Alternatives:
Descartes’ close examination/scrutiny*
Descartes’ questioning of basic concepts*
Descartes’ drawing into question of basic beliefs*

*all suggestions subject to further context

Explanation:
It would neither do justice to Descartes’ philosophy nor to Derrida's notion of "deconstruction" to confuse them. To cut it very short, Descartes sets out enquiring all kinds of things that appear to the human sense (or better call them objects of human perception) and asking whether these could represent pieces of truth or actual being in a philosophical sense, and eventually reveals them as mere perceptions based on and flawed by the limits of unreflected observation. However, at the turning point of his Meditationes (= his chief work), he finds what he understands to be an unquestionable certainty, namely the famous “Cogito, ergo sum”, which basically means that, in doubting all kinds of perceptions I can think of, there is one thing which I cannot doubt, namely my very capability of doubting itself, and that is, my capability to think. This leads him to introduce thinking itself as the ultimate principle of certainty, as long as my thoughts are “clear and distinct”. On this basis, he then arrives at a re-affirmation of any idea or concept that can be thought in this way, “clearly and distinctly”, especially the notions of “God” and “I”, which according to him cannot be denied their existence for the same reason. Accordingly, he winds up re-affirming all concepts/thoughts that fulfil this criterion.

With Derrida, while there are parallels (e. g. both are focussing on fundamental epistemological questions), the conclusion is far from similar: Derrida reveals that all believed certainty is rooted in concepts or basic ideas that the human mind cannot question, but which cannot be true either, because they are based on sets of binary oppositions and other rituals the only “advantage” of which is that without them, we would not be able to understand or even talk to each other. It would take a language different from all human languages to understand and communicate what is happening. He thus reveals these concepts as unconfirmable, yet insurmountable dogmas. According to Derrida, it ultimately follows that, while deconstruction helps us to learn that we must have been dreaming, we must necessarily live on as dreamers, in order to continue communication. While there can be no triumph about any re-affirmation of metaphysics (as in Descartes’ way), we are left with a sense of sheer incapability to do without it.

Gert Sass (M.A.)
Germany
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

German

Notes to answerer

Asker: Excellent explanation, thanks so much for taking so much time in explaining Descartes thinking. But I believe this translation is more profound that the original text.

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Spanish: desarmadero de Descartes

English translation: Descartes's deconstruction