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que todavía no hubiera roto con ellas

English translation: that have not yet emerged (the possibilities of an imago-spectrum)

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Spanish term or phrase:	que todavía no hubiera roto con ellas
English translation:	that have not yet emerged (the possibilities of an imago-spectrum)
Entered by:	Jenni Lukac

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08:28 Oct 8, 2009

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Spanish term or phrase: que todavía no hubiera roto con ellas

The phrase comes in the sentence given below:

El imagógrafo inaugura un mundo sin doblez fantasmal, donde la opacidad de la imago-objectum no deja transparentar las otras posibilidades, innumerables, de una imago-subjectum que todavía no hubiera roto con ellas.

I understand the "ellas" to be the "other possibilities" but I'm not entirely convinced with my translation of this so far which goes:

"The imagograph inaugurates a world without phantasmal duplicity, where the opacity of the imago-objectum stops the other, innumerable, possibilities of an imago-subjectum which had not yet done with these, from being revealed."

Perhaps a better way would be to say "the possibilities of an imago-subjectum which had not yet been realised,"

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Julie Waddington KudoZ activity Questions: 14 (none open) Answers: 65 Spain
Local time: 23:17

the possibilities of an imago-spectrum that have not yet emerged

Explanation:
One possibility, although your "which had not yet been realised" sounds valid to me in the context of the text provided.

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Jenni Lukac
Spain
Local time: 23:17

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Many thanks to you all for your valuable contributions. The points go to Jenni for her suggestion which fits best with tone/context of the article.
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Summary of answers provided

that would have not let go of yet

Andrea Anguera

which had still not broken with that perception

Laurie Price

those countless/innumerable possibilities which the imago-subjectum has yet to...

hjs45

the possibilities of an imago-spectrum that have not yet emerged

Jenni Lukac

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

11 mins confidence:

those countless/innumerable possibilities which the imago-subjectum has yet to...

Explanation:
let go/relinquish

hjs45
Spain
Local time: 23:17
Native speaker of:

English

16 mins confidence:

which had still not broken with that perception

Explanation:
... or something to that effect ...

an educated guess/suggestion -- but I must say, the context/structure is a bit abstract to my way of seeing/thinking ...

"Them" seems to indicate the "world without phantasmal duplicity" ... ?

Laurie Price
Spain
Local time: 23:17
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English

19 mins confidence:

the possibilities of an imago-spectrum that have not yet emerged

Explanation:
One possibility, although your "which had not yet been realised" sounds valid to me in the context of the text provided.

Jenni Lukac
Spain
Local time: 23:17
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Many thanks to you all for your valuable contributions. The points go to Jenni for her suggestion which fits best with tone/context of the article.

2 days8 hrs confidence:

that would have not let go of yet

Explanation:
I think it means that if the imago-subjectum had a choice it wouldn't have let go of all the other possibilities yet, but the imagograph forces it to do it.

I would probably also change 'stops' for 'veils'

"The imagograph inaugurates a world without phantasmal duplicity, where the opacity of the imago-objectum veils the other –innumerable– possibilities of an imago-subjectum which would have not let go of them yet."

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Note added at 2 days9 hrs (2009-10-10 17:54:28 GMT)
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sorry the title should read: would have not let go of them yet

Andrea Anguera
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:17
Native speaker of:

Spanish