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English translation: either a thesis or an effectively definable element of a given empirical group

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11:06 May 23, 2010

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Art/Literary - Philosophy / Art/Philosophy: Ricardo Calero, Michel Serres

Spanish term or phrase: ya una tesis, ya un elemento efectivamente definible de

Here the text quotes Michel Serres, writing in Hermes I: la communication.

“Imaginemos -escribe Serres-, dibujado en el espacio de representación, un diagrama en red. En un instante (al representar un estado cualquiera de una situación móvil), está conformado por una pluralidad de ramificaciones (caminos). Cada punto representa, ***ya una tesis, ya un elemento efectivamente definible de un conjunto empírico determinado***”.

I have not managed to find any translations of this essay online, and am not quite sure how to word the whole phrase above. I am not overly familiar with Serres' work, which is dense to say the least, and am worried about wording this sentence completely wrong.

In particular, "definible de"= "definable AS"??

Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance. UK Eng preferred.

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English translation:either a thesis or an effectively definable element of a given empirical group

Explanation:
Needs a bit of polishing but I'd say it's along those lines.

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either a thesis or an effectively definable element of a given empirical group

Andrew Langdon-Davies

a theory, an element effectively definable as a certain group

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either a thesis or an element which can be defined as

Roberto Lipani

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either a thesis or an element which can be defined as

Explanation:
Leyendo el contexto, me parece como una comparación de los terminos utilizados en la explicación. saludos. Roberto

Roberto Lipani
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either a thesis or an effectively definable element of a given empirical group

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Needs a bit of polishing but I'd say it's along those lines.

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a theory, an element effectively definable as a certain group

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Contextually that is how I understand.

esing
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