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el secuestrado

English translation: the victim


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Spanish term or phrase:el secuestrado
English translation:the victim
Entered by: Giovanni Rengifo
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03:03 Sep 25, 2005
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Psychology / -
Spanish term or phrase: el secuestrado
En un texto sobre recomendaciones en caso de ser secuestrado, se mencionan constantemente los "secuestradores" y "el secuestrado" en diferentes tipos de secuestros.

Tengo varias opciones para esta palabra, pero no estoy seguro sobre cuál es la más apropiada o la más común.
Gracias por sus respuestas!
Giovanni Rengifo
Colombia
Local time: 00:22
the victim
Explanation:
Many examples: http://tinyurl.com/76qa5
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GoodWords
Mexico
Local time: 00:22
Grading comment
Thank you Goodwords!
I think your answers best fits the context of my translation.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +6hostage
Muriel Vasconcellos
5 +6the victim
GoodWords
4 +2the kidnapped (person) / the (person) kidnapped
SwissTell
5kidnapedmar52
4kidnappeetransparx


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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
the kidnapped (person) / the (person) kidnapped


Explanation:
los secuestradores are of course "the kidknappers"


    La Rousse
SwissTell
Local time: 01:22
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marina Soldati
0 min
agree  transparx: this is good, too, obviously
4 mins
agree  Xenia Wong
29 mins
disagree  Kim Metzger: I assume you've placed "person" in parentheses because you think it would also be possible to refer to them as "the kidnapped." "The kidnapped was released yesterday"?
17 hrs
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
kidnaped


Explanation:
kidnaped or kidnapped.

Think it´s the most usual.
Good luck and good night!

mar52
Argentina
Local time: 02:22
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +6
the victim


Explanation:
Many examples: http://tinyurl.com/76qa5

GoodWords
Mexico
Local time: 00:22
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you Goodwords!
I think your answers best fits the context of my translation.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ines Garcia Botana: Excellent!
45 mins
agree  Daniel Burns
1 hr
agree  Kim Metzger
1 hr
neutral  transparx: it seems to me that *the victim* is too generic, though it's true that *un secuestrado* is probably also a victim (at least at the level of thematic roles)
2 hrs
  -> Nevertheless, this is the usual usage in English; the context makes it clear.
agree  Refugio: the kidnap victim
2 hrs
agree  Ian Jones: and hostage.
6 hrs
agree  Claudia Luque Bedregal
1 day51 mins
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
kidnappee


Explanation:
another possibility.

e.g, http://www.petermaass.com/core.cfm?p=1&mag=23&magtype=3

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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=kidnappee

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Note added at 2 hrs 25 mins (2005-09-25 05:28:26 GMT)
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or even *the abducted (person)*, *(the(person)abducted)*, or *abductee*
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=abductee
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/articleabductee.shtml
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07...

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one more thing: although the word *secuestrado* is used consistently in the original text, you're not bound to use the same English word across the board --you could pick and choose
(just a suggestion!)

transparx
Local time: 01:22
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Refugio: This is a possible, though rare, term, but its spelling has an unfortunate resemblance to yippee.//Yes, they are being used and abused. My pet peeve is tutor and tutee.
2 hrs
  -> you may be right. i was just trying to think of more options. also, i seem to notice more and more *-ee nouns* being used. or is it just me? thanks anyway.
neutral  Brie Vernier: also reminds me of the BE "nappie", which makes this a rather amusing term indeed ...//Sorry, Nino, guess I'm feeling superficial today. Was just browsing someone's Kudoz profile and stumbled across this. As the Q has already been closed, I saw no harm ..
42 days
  -> surprised at the superficiality of your comment .fine,but i know you to be a linguist.such comments are made by people with little linguistic awareness-like the Italian politician who complained about being referred to as kakka -Your Excellency inJapan..
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +6
hostage


Explanation:
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Note added at 20 mins (2005-09-25 03:23:35 GMT)
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Once a perston is kidnaped, he/she becomes a hostage. I can't imagine using any other term.

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Apparently "hostage" goes back to biblical times. I can think of no other reason to kidnap a person except as "security for the performance of some promise."

a person delivered into the hands of another as a security for the performance of some promise, etc. (2 Kings 14:14; 2 Chr. 25:24).
christianity.about.com/library/weekly/blT0001800.htm

A person held as a pledge that certain terms or agreements will be kept. (The taking of hostages is forbidden under the Geneva Conventions, 1949.)
www.aiipowmia.com/histories/histdef.html

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 22:22
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 41

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alex Crichton
2 mins
  -> Thank you, Alex!
agree  David Hollywood: absolutely
12 mins
  -> Thanks, David!
agree  Xenia Wong
15 mins
  -> Thank you, Xenia!
agree  Ines Garcia Botana
50 mins
  -> Thanks, Ines!
agree  bigedsenior: Right on!
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, Big Ed!
neutral  transparx: true, except that it is often the case that other people know where exactly hostages are and even how they're doing, whereas the whereabouts of a kidnapped or abducted person are usually unknown
2 hrs
  -> I agree that "hostage" applies to other situations as well.
disagree  Refugio: A bit too overspecific? Not all kidnappings are for ransom or exchange, thus not all kidnap victims are hostages.//Think of kidnapped children.
2 hrs
  -> I see your point, now. But interestingly, in the recent kidnapings we have had in our area, they have referred to the child as a hostage -- probably by extension.
agree  Ian Jones: and victim. In the UK I think we use hostage more for hijackings and sieges.
6 hrs
  -> Thanks, Ian!
agree  colemh
8 hrs
  -> Thank you!
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