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con lo que permaneció inescolar a esa fecha

English translation: therefore, from that date onward she was not enrolled


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Spanish term or phrase:con lo que permaneció inescolar a esa fecha
English translation:therefore, from that date onward she was not enrolled
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Spanish term or phrase: con lo que permaneció inescolar a esa fecha
Hola,

Sigo en el informe psicológico del niño. Sólo me queda esta duda:

Hablando la inasistencia a clases de una de las hermanas del niño:

"Dada esta situación, se canceló la matrícula de la niña el día XX de XXXXX, con lo que permaneció inescolar a esa fecha."

Sé que inescolaridad se refiere a deserción escolar, school drop-out, pero no logro darle sentido a esta frase.

¿Alguien sabe?

Muchas gracias.
bmtraducciones
Chile
Local time: 08:29
therefore, from that date onward she was not enrolled
Explanation:
My interpretation.

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Note added at 59 mins (2009-11-08 01:40:05 GMT)
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Without more context it's hard to tell, but my understanding is that the child is being charged with truancy and the author is emphasizing that the student was not subject to the school's regulations from the time she was formally taken out of the school. They can't charge her with truancy when she wasn't enrolled. Emphasis is on the date. I don't think it's about her schooling in general.
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Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 03:29
Grading comment
Muchas gracias.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2from which date, she was no longer enrolledfemme
4 +2therefore, from that date onward she was not enrolled
Muriel Vasconcellos
4which meant that she was excluded from school from that date onwards.
Julie Waddington
4with the result that she was unschooled as from that datemediamatrix
4and she therefore was not enrolled in any academic institution as of that date.
Robert Forstag


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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
con lo que permaneció inescolar a esa fecha.
and she therefore was not enrolled in any academic institution as of that date.


Explanation:
The point seems to be to subtly emphasize that the parents/adults responsible for her care did not take action to enroll her in some other school after she was expelled from her the last school that she attended due to excessive absence.

Suerte.

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Addendum:

To me, it would sound more natural in English to write:

and she therefore has not been enrolled in any academic institutions since that date

If you otherwise know that this is the case, I would suggest that you translate the sentence in this way.

Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 06:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 72
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you Robert. Your interpretation is correct.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  mediamatrix: There's no reason to suppose that the parents 'did not take action to enrol her' - they may have tried but found no school able/willing to take the child. It's best to stick to the known facts - the kid was not in any school.//Pull the other one, Robert!
8 mins
  -> All I did was speculate as to why the sentence was worded as it was (it is, after all, something of a tautology). As you can surely see, this speculation is not part of the translation itself. The validity of my suggestion does not rest on its veracity.
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
with the result that she was unschooled as from that date


Explanation:
Best to avoid making assumptions about whether of not the parents tried to get the child enrolled elsewhere. The source text merely says she was unschooled.

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mediamatrix
Chile
Local time: 08:29
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  David Ronder: The primary meaning of unschooled is uneducated (as opposed to not in school), though I note your references
19 hrs
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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
therefore, from that date onward she was not enrolled


Explanation:
My interpretation.

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Note added at 59 mins (2009-11-08 01:40:05 GMT)
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Without more context it's hard to tell, but my understanding is that the child is being charged with truancy and the author is emphasizing that the student was not subject to the school's regulations from the time she was formally taken out of the school. They can't charge her with truancy when she wasn't enrolled. Emphasis is on the date. I don't think it's about her schooling in general.

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 03:29
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 33
Grading comment
Muchas gracias.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you Muriel. This is a good option too.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Chriswa: This much we know.
38 mins
  -> Thanks!

agree  David Ronder: It's not wrong
18 hrs
  -> Thanks, David!
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
from which date, she was no longer enrolled


Explanation:
HTH

femme
United States
Local time: 06:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you femme. Now I have more options to consider.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  franglish
4 hrs
  -> Gracias, franglish.

agree  David Ronder: I can also go with this
16 hrs
  -> Thanks, David.
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1 day12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
which meant that she was excluded from school from that date onwards.


Explanation:
Although the term "excluded" is not used in the source text, in English it conveys the intended meaning effectively and is an established term in education/schooling policies. The use of this would make it clear that the reason for her no longer going to school is a result of a decision made by the school as a consequence of her non-attendance.


Ref. for use of exclusion:
www.direct.gov.uk/.../Schoolslearninganddevelopment/YourChi... -

Permanent exclusions

A school will usually only permanently exclude a child as a last resort, after trying to improve the child's behaviour through other means. However, there are exceptional circumstances in which a headteacher may decide to permanently exclude a pupil for a 'one-off' offence.

If your child has been permanently excluded, be aware that:

* the school's governing body is required to review the headteacher's decision and you may meet with them to explain your views on the exclusion
* if the governing body confirms the exclusion, you can appeal to an independent appeal panel organised by the local authority
* the school must explain in a letter how to lodge an appeal
* the local authority must provide full-time education from the sixth day of a permanent exclusion

U.S. examples of exclusion:

www.teachushistory.org/.../colored-scholars-excluded-school -
www.guardian.co.uk/.../story-gay-parents-school-book-fair -



Julie Waddington
Spain
Local time: 12:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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