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English translation: bateyes [sugar company towns]


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Spanish term or phrase:batey, bateyes
English translation:bateyes [sugar company towns]
Entered by: liz askew
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00:16 Jun 10, 2008
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. / Dominican Republic
Spanish term or phrase: batey, bateyes
I would like to start a discussion on how this term is used in the Dominican Republic. My first thought was to translate it as "shantytowns" but then I thought it might have a more specific connotation. The text below is from an evaluation of health system response to the HIV epidemic in the Dominican Republic:

...se realizaron visitas de terreno con entrevistas estructuradas: 8 Direcciones Regionales de Salud (DRS), 11 Direcciones Provinciales de Salud (DPS) y 4 Áreas de Salud, 18 hospitales, 28 Unidades de Atención Primaria (UNAP), 6 UAI, 11 ONG, y 3 Bateyes.
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 22:28
bateyes [sugar company towns]
Explanation:
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:XC-_XzkiwJ4J:www.indyme...

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Note added at 7 hrs (2008-06-10 07:50:39 GMT)
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It's all very well, but I think the vast majority of English readers would need an explanation of the term.
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liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:28
Grading comment
Thanks, Liz! In fact, that's exmctly what I decided to do once I saw the answer above.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +5batey, bateyes
trixiemck
4 +2bateyes [sugar company towns]liz askew
4sugar mill town(s)Gretchen Small


  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +5
batey, bateyes


Explanation:
I translated several videos for an American company and had to do quite a lot of research... In English-language websites they keep the Spanish words batey and bateyes. They are not simply shantytowns, but are communities of sugar cane workers and their families. Most of them are Haitian or Dominico-Haitian.

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DOMINICAN REPUBLIC: A Sour Taste on the Sugar Plantations -- Cohen ... Nowhere is this more evident than in the bateyes, where the Dominican epidemic .... brush have overgrown the old sugar cane fields near Batey Cinco Casas, ...
www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/313/5786/473 - Similar pages - Note this

:: Batey 8.com - ABOUT BATEY 8 This website is about the people of Batey 8 in the Dominican Republic. ... Today there are roughly 280 bateyes across the Dominican Republic, ...
www.batey8.com/2.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

Helping a poor nation's poorest people | Lutheran, The | Find ... But it's priceless in Batey Yabacao, a tiny Dominican Republic village of sugar ... Working with six bateyes, where some 1865 people live, Procaribe uses a ...
findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3942/is_199904/ai_n8841267 - 42k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this


trixiemck
Argentina
Local time: 02:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi! I wish I could award points to both answers. You started the ball rolling, but I did appreciate the suggestion to simply add the explanation in parentheses. It was hard to choose!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Patricia Rosas: yes. There's even an Eng-lang. article in Wikipedia about them
4 mins
  -> Thanks, Patricia.

agree  Taña Dalglish: Here is a nice explanation: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Batey (sugar worke...'+town) A batey (plural is bateyes) is a company town where sugar workers live. They can be found in Cuba and the Dominican Republic. Un abrazo.
6 mins
  -> Un abrazo, Taña. Gracias.

agree  Gerardo Garcia Ramis: The root is a Taíno Indian word meaning ballpark or even the area around the house, but in this sense I would leave as is.
47 mins
  -> Thanks, Gerardo.

agree  Marcelo González: (Having lived in Santo Domingo) I agree; this is a term that might be best left un-translated (and just italicized).
49 mins
  -> Thanks, Marcelo

agree  Sandra Rodriguez: The Taino word refers to the sacred ceremonial plaza and ball game, but in this context it is a village. You could use batey and explain in a footnote.
3 hrs
  -> Thanks, Sandra.
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
bateyes [sugar company towns]


Explanation:
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:XC-_XzkiwJ4J:www.indyme...

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Note added at 7 hrs (2008-06-10 07:50:39 GMT)
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It's all very well, but I think the vast majority of English readers would need an explanation of the term.

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:28
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 60
Grading comment
Thanks, Liz! In fact, that's exmctly what I decided to do once I saw the answer above.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Lucia Colombino: I had never come across the term either, it isn't used in this part of the Spanish speaking world.
3 hrs
  -> Thank you!

agree  Taña Dalglish: Absolutely. I believe an explanation is needed. I believe this is useful: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Batey ( Saludos.
3 hrs
  -> Thank you! Otherwise we will all be scratching our heads:-)
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236 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
sugar mill town(s)


Explanation:
More used (and more evocative) than "sugar company towns."

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Note added at 236 days (2009-02-01 23:20:18 GMT) Post-grading
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The State Department 2003 Human Rights Report on the Dominican Republic uses "bateyes," after having described them as "shantytowns" or "sugar mill work camps. " See: http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2003/27895.htm
"...Approximately 650,000 Haitian immigrants--or 7.5 percent of the country's population--lived in shantytowns or sugar cane work camps known as bateyes...",

Gretchen Small
United States
Local time: 01:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for the update!

Asker: Thanks for the update!

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Jun 10, 2008 - Changes made by liz askew:
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