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aborígenes

English translation: indigenous (peoples)


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Spanish term or phrase:aborígenes
English translation:indigenous (peoples)
Entered by: Alan R King
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Spanish term or phrase: aborígenes
¿Cuál es la mejor manera de referirse a culturas originarias/PUEBLOS ORIGINARIOS? Estoy en Aca. del Sur, en Argentina y Chile. ¿'Native Americans' es aceptado como término posible, no despectivo para estos pueblos? ¿Qué otras maneras hay de referirse? GRACIAS
Fedele
Argentina
Local time: 09:05
indigenous (peoples)
Explanation:
Although THEORETICALLY "aborigines" (singular: "aborigine", from the Latin phrase "ab origine" = from the origin, from the beginning; and remember this is a NOUN, the corresponding ADJECTIVE being "aboriginal") is correct, it is not the most used term and in practice is applied in English usage mostly to the first inhabitants of Australia specifically.

Other options (such as "native [peoples]" and "first...", as some have suggested here) are used in some cultural/geographical areas (e.g. "Native Hawaiians", "First Americans") but in others may acquire odd or different meanings or connotations.

"Indigenous" is a sort of blanket term meaning practically the same as "aboriginal" (without the Australian connotation). But please remember it is an ADJECTIVE, not a noun. You will often need to put a noun such as "people(s)", "language(s)" etc. after it.
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Alan R King
Spain
Local time: 13:05
Grading comment
Thank you sooooo much, Alan. And everybody else for their comments. Very clear.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +6indigenous (peoples)
Alan R King
4 +5aboriginal or indigenous
mslang
4Native Americans/First Peoples
GoodWords
4nativegarci
4aborigins
Andrea Quintana
3original inhabitants original natives
German Gonzalez


  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
aborigins


Explanation:
Native Americans son los aborígenes de E.U.A.

Andrea Quintana
Argentina
Local time: 09:05
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Victoria Lorenzo
1 min
  -> Muchas gracias, Victoria.

disagree  Alan R King: Sorry to disagree. First, the form used in English is "aborigines". In practice this is most often applied to Australia, so may not be LA MEJOR MANERA to refer to these peoples in English.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks for correcting me, Alan. Regards, Andrea.
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
original inhabitants original natives


Explanation:
espero que sirva...

German Gonzalez
Argentina
Local time: 09:05
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
aboriginal or indigenous


Explanation:
The aboriginal or indigenous population, not exactly the same as the Australian aborigins

mslang
United States
Local time: 06:05
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  GoodWords: As adjectives; aboriginal peoples or indigenous peoples.
6 mins

agree  Juan Jacob: No sé en inglés. En todo caso, en México, se utiliza indígena, jamás aborígen.
10 mins

agree  Daniel Burns
29 mins

agree  Elena Robles Sanjuan
1 hr

neutral  Wil Hardman: would you not agree that due to common usage- aboriginal now does have the connotation of indigenous australians.
4 hrs

neutral  Alan R King: I also must insist that in any case it's "aborigines", not *aborigins!
5 hrs

agree  Lorenia de la Vega: Indigenous, yes. I agree with Wil, aboriginal now has that connotation.
6 hrs
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
native


Explanation:
NATIVE
- [ Traduzca esta página ]
Native American Tribes: Information Virtually Everywhere.
www.afn.org/~native/ - 2k

Native Americans - American Indians - The First People of America ...
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Native Americans - American Indians - The First People of America; History of Native American Tribes.

Check this note from The Free Dictionary:

native·ness n.
Synonyms: native, indigenous, endemic, autochthonous, aboriginal
These adjectives mean of, belonging to, or connected with a specific place or country by virtue of birth or origin. Native implies birth or origin in the specified place: a native New Yorker; the native North American sugar maple.
Indigenous specifies that something or someone is native rather than coming or being brought in from elsewhere: an indigenous crop; the Ainu, a people indigenous to the northernmost islands of Japan.
Something endemic is prevalent in or peculiar to a particular locality or people: endemic disease.
Autochthonous applies to what is native and unchanged by outside sources: autochthonous folk melodies.
Aboriginal describes what has existed from the beginning; it is often applied to the earliest known inhabitants of a place: the aboriginal population; aboriginal nature. See Also Synonyms at crude.

Usage Note: When used in reference to a member of an indigenous people, the noun native, like its synonym aborigine, can evoke unwelcome stereotypes of primitiveness or cultural backwardness that many people now seek to avoid. As is often the case with words that categorize people, the use of the noun is more problematic than the use of the corresponding adjective. Thus a phrase such as the peoples native to northern Europe or the aboriginal inhabitants of the South Pacific is generally much preferable to the natives of northern Europe or the aborigines of the South Pacific.·Despite its potentially negative connotations, native is enjoying increasing popularity in ethnonyms such as native Australian and Alaska Native, perhaps due to the wide acceptance of Native American as a term of ethnic pride and respect. These compounds have the further benefit of being equally acceptable when used alone as nouns (a native Australian) or in an adjectival construction (a member of a native Australian people). Of terms formed on this model, those referring to peoples indigenous to the United States generally capitalize native, as in Alaska Native (or the less common Native Alaskan) and Native Hawaiian, while others usually style it lowercase.
www.nativeamericans.com/ - 64k -

Suerte !

garci
Mexico
Local time: 06:05
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Wil Hardman: I would say native is an antiquated term and politically incorrect. It is the term the British used during imperial times.
4 hrs
  -> Thank you Will !

neutral  Alan R King: to me it conjures up grass skirts and coconut-shell bras, or else suspected cannibals (i.e. western/Hollywood stereotypes) :-)
5 hrs
  -> Thank you Alan ! I guess your suggestion is the best one.
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Native Americans/First Peoples


Explanation:
Cuando se habla de algún pueblo en particular, la manera correcta es de utilizar el nombre específico del pueblo; cuando se habla de todos los pueblos aborígenes en su totalidad, Native Americans es el término de respeto en EEUU, First Peoples en Canadá.

http://www.nativechild.com/resources/article.html por ejemplo.


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Note added at 23 mins (2007-01-23 04:28:41 GMT)
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También http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness#Debate

Aunque el propósito de este ensayo es de burlar de lo "politicamente correcto", acierta el nombre "correcto": http://webpages.marshall.edu/~hartwel1/humor/misc/politicall... (ver "PC LEXICON") "Indian is now Native American, the Indigenous Peoples of North American Continent "

De otro lado, un punto de vista aborigen: http://www.allthingscherokee.com/atc_sub_culture_feat_events...
"Many Indians continue to call themselves Indian or American Indian regardless of what the rest of America and the world calls them. [...] The recommended method is to refer to a person by their tribe, if that information is known. The reason is that the Native peoples of North America are incredibly diverse."

GoodWords
Mexico
Local time: 06:05
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Carol Gullidge: to UK English, at least, Native Americans refers only to North Americans, ie from US, not South Americans (Argentina, etc)
4 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +6
indigenous (peoples)


Explanation:
Although THEORETICALLY "aborigines" (singular: "aborigine", from the Latin phrase "ab origine" = from the origin, from the beginning; and remember this is a NOUN, the corresponding ADJECTIVE being "aboriginal") is correct, it is not the most used term and in practice is applied in English usage mostly to the first inhabitants of Australia specifically.

Other options (such as "native [peoples]" and "first...", as some have suggested here) are used in some cultural/geographical areas (e.g. "Native Hawaiians", "First Americans") but in others may acquire odd or different meanings or connotations.

"Indigenous" is a sort of blanket term meaning practically the same as "aboriginal" (without the Australian connotation). But please remember it is an ADJECTIVE, not a noun. You will often need to put a noun such as "people(s)", "language(s)" etc. after it.

Alan R King
Spain
Local time: 13:05
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you sooooo much, Alan. And everybody else for their comments. Very clear.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Maria Martinez: indigenous peoples is the correct term used, I know for sure because I have been working for several ONG"s that fight for their rights.
1 hr
  -> thank you María; me too, that's how I know!

agree  jekelleher: Native American refers mainly to indigenous peoples in the USA. Native on its own has negative connotations from 1930's Tarzan movies. Indigenous (peoples) is the best option
1 hr
  -> thanks John

agree  Wil Hardman: this can be used for 'natives' anywhere in the world and is the most PC.
2 hrs
  -> thanks Will

agree  aceavila - Noni: PC rules
2 hrs
  -> thanks!

agree  Carol Gullidge: or "the indigenous population", depending...
2 hrs
  -> agree, thanks Carol

agree  patricia scott
4 hrs
  -> thanks Patricia
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