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ave y pájaro

English translation: all kinds of birds

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Spanish term or phrase:	ave y pájaro
English translation:	all kinds of birds
Entered by:	Lisa McCarthy

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11:21 Apr 9, 2009

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Tourism & Travel / Birdwatching

Spanish term or phrase: ave y pájaro

Difference between 'ave' and 'pájaro' anyone?

Toda la comunidad de Navarra con el Parque Natural de las Bardenas Reales como primer destino es otra de las zonas de nuestro país de referencia para los amantes del birding. En las Bardenas Reales viven rapaces como el buitre leonado, el águila real, el águila culebrera y el milano negro que pueden ser observadas desde los puntos de observación preparados en todo el parque.

Pero, Navarra esconde otros lugares de interés para observar ***aves y pájaros** tales como la Laguna de Pitillas que es un humedal de 216 hectáreas donde con un poco de suerte es posible ver el avetoro, una de las aves más buscadas de Europa.

Lisa McCarthy KudoZ activity Questions: 1903 (9 open) (158 closed without grading) Answers: 2312 Spain
Local time: 21:11

all kinds/types/species of birds

Explanation:
A way out of problem. See wordreference link below.

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1124244

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or different kinds/species of birds

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bcsantos
Gibraltar
Local time: 21:11

Grading comment

Thanks, BC - went for this as I didn´t really want to use 'bird watching' again, and this is closer to what they actually say in the text.
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4 +3

bird watching

Ashwin Goud

4 +3

no difference really

neilmac

birds, large and small

AZjuancarlos

3 +1

all kinds/types/species of birds

bcsantos

3 +1

songbirds, waterfowl and waders...

Christine Walsh

fowl and bird

silviantonia

Summary of reference entries provided

Pájaro

David Ronder

Discussion entries: 1

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5 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

bird watching

Explanation:
pájaro se traduce como bird y ave también significa bird. Yo lo traduciría como bird watching según el contexto del parrafo.

Ashwin Goud
Spain
Local time: 21:11
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7 mins confidence:

fowl and bird

Explanation:
Even though they are both birds, I am thinking they use both to make some sort of distinction. Usually pájaro or bird refers to birds that fly... so that you would not necessarily call a turkey a bird but rather a fowl...

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(I know that wild turkeys can fly, although not very fast, but I think you understand what I mean)

silviantonia
Local time: 13:11
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31 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

no difference really

Explanation:
Flight/flightless in English. Although "carne de ave" is "fowl", which although correct, is rarely used in common parlance (and chickens can fly, but only the lucky ones).
Neither flesh nor fowl sounds very olde worlde.
BTW "twitchers" are birdwatchers. The whole "Navarra esconde otros lugares de interés para observar ***aves y pájaros** " bit could be: "Navarra has other hidden /concealed/recondite sites/spots for birdwatching ..." or similar

neilmac
Spain
Local time: 21:11
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1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

songbirds, waterfowl and waders...

Explanation:
( ... ) ...such as the bittern or avetoro (Botaurus stellaris)

Not an accurate translation, but might give the same idea of variety (I believe the bittern can be considered a wader)

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Bound to be all three in an 'humedal'

Christine Walsh
Local time: 16:11
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PRO pts in category: 12

6 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

all kinds/types/species of birds

bcsantos
Gibraltar
Local time: 21:11
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English,

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 36

Grading comment

Thanks, BC - went for this as I didn´t really want to use 'bird watching' again, and this is closer to what they actually say in the text.

4 hrs confidence:

birds, large and small

Explanation:
just another suggestion. As for the difference, "ave" would be the all inclusive class, while "pájaro" usually refers to small (and usually flying) birds (according the RAE). Buena suerte

AZjuancarlos
Local time: 12:11
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Spanish

Reference comments

16 mins peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: Pájaro

Reference information:
= Ave capaz de volar, generalmente la de pequeño tamaño (Larousse 2007)

Basically if it's an ostrich it's not a pájaro.

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And unless I'm very much mistaken, all pájaros are aves, but not all aves are pájaros (if that's any use to you...).

David Ronder
United Kingdom
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