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English translation: scales of perception

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Spanish term or phrase:	escalas de percepción del paisaje
English translation:	scales of perception
Entered by:	Carol Gullidge

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20:00 Jan 9, 2010

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Tourism & Travel / viewing monuments in Seville

Spanish term or phrase: escalas de percepción del paisaje

Las características singulares de los tres monumentos incluidos (...) y particularmente las características de la torre de la Giralda como hito visual, han sido objeto de un análisis perceptivo (...)

En este estudio se reconocen dos ****< escalas de percepción del paisaje >**** urbano de Sevilla:
a) su paisaje urbano histórico, vinculado al casco antiguo de la ciudad y a su indisoluble relación con la dársena del Guadalquivir como río “histórico”; y
b) el paisaje de la ciudad de la periferia y de su área metropolitana.

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The text is about the merits of the group of monuments as a heritage site, not only for their own inherent values, but also how they fit into the landscape... and, I believe, how they can be viewed - which I think is relevant here.
I'm at a loss as to how to translate 'escalas de percepción ' without it sounding like some psychological or artistic term. I'm not at all convinced by the literal translation. Obviously, (a) and (b) describe the 2 'escalas' in question.

I'd be really grateful for any suggestions - many thanks!

Incidentally, I've translated 'análisis perceptivo' as 'perceptual analysis' and not 'perceptive analysis' (rightly or wrongly)

Carol Gullidge KudoZ activity Questions: 348 (1 open) (3 closed without grading) Answers: 2354 United Kingdom
Local time: 20:15

ways of looking at the landscape

Explanation:
Plain (UK) English:

se reconocen dos ****< escalas de percepción del paisaje >**** urbano de Sevilla
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(the study acknowleges that) there are two (quite different) ways of looking at the urban landscape of Seville:

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xxxmediamatrix
Local time: 15:15

Grading comment

many thanks to everyone! Once again, I feel rather silly as the translation turns out to be the literal one ("scales of perception"), even though I had considered this possibility from various angles, and discarded it - amongst a good deal of others. Claudia's answer is also pretty close in meaning, apparently!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +5

ways of looking at the landscape

xxxmediamatrix

4 +1

two ways to appreciate/admire the urban landscape

Edward Tully

levels of appreciation, against its backdrop/background

Richard Boulter

the two stopping points to appreciate the site

Leonardo Lamarche

3 +1

This study uses the following classifications to describe the urban landscape of Seville

Fiona Hale

insights of the landscape

Marian Cantero

two scales at which Seville's urban landscape may be viewed / two scales for viewing Seville's...

Deborah Lockett

...two angles from which to observe/appreciate...

claudia16

stages/phases in the appreciation of the (urban) landscape

Christine Walsh

two ways that it fits into the landscape

bigedsenior

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

8 mins confidence:

two ways that it fits into the landscape

Explanation:
just a suggestion

bigedsenior
Local time: 12:15
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 124

Notes to answerer

Asker: thanks biged - I hadn't thought of it from this angle!

12 mins confidence:

insights of the landscape

Explanation:
You could use this term. You can have different insights of the same thing, depending of how you look at it.

Marian Cantero
Local time: 21:15
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish

Notes to answerer

Asker: thanks Marian! Insights suggests view(ing) points or perspectives... could be on to something here!

33 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

This study uses the following classifications to describe the urban landscape of Seville

Explanation:
I wonder if turning it round like this or similar might work better. You could also try "typologies" instead of classifications. I agree that a literal translation is going to sound odd in English.

Fiona Hale
Local time: 20:15
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English

9 mins confidence:

stages/phases in the appreciation of the (urban) landscape

Explanation:
Might do. Cheers

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Note added at 13 mins (2010-01-09 20:14:11 GMT)
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As to your question at the end, I think 'perceptual' sounds OK, certainly better than 'perceptive'

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Note added at 42 mins (2010-01-09 20:42:56 GMT)
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Not to worry, I realised as soon as I clicked that it wasn't a question. Not that it would worry me, but the moderators are right: it plays havoc with the glossary.

Christine Walsh
Local time: 16:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 12

Notes to answerer

Asker: thanks Chris! I wasn't trying for 2 questions at once (although I suppose that must be how it looks) but just hoping to add "perspective" to the term in question. Btw, I like your idea of "appreciation"

46 mins confidence:

the two stopping points to appreciate the site

Explanation:
Creo que este es el significado.

Leonardo Lamarche
Venezuela
Local time: 14:45
Native speaker of: Spanish

47 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

ways of looking at the landscape

xxxmediamatrix
Local time: 15:15
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

Grading comment

1 hr confidence:

...two angles from which to observe/appreciate...

Explanation:
Seville's urban landscape

claudia16
Local time: 20:15
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 8

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

two ways to appreciate/admire the urban landscape

Explanation:
Agree that a literal take here won't do - HTH.

Edward Tully
Local time: 21:15
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 91

9 hrs confidence:

two scales at which Seville's urban landscape may be viewed / two scales for viewing Seville's...

Explanation:
seems to be referring to the cartographical scale: the old city will be viewed on a larger scale as the area is smaller, while the outskirts of the city will be viewed at a smaller scale as the map will take in a larger area.

The writer does seem to have more of a technical approach (that of an architect or geographer) than that of an artist, even though he/she combines the two approaches.

Deborah Lockett
Local time: 20:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 155

19 hrs confidence:

levels of appreciation, against its backdrop/background

Explanation:
Not to be left out in such an actively friendly discussion, I add another set of wording options in case it may be helpful.
Happy typing!

Richard Boulter
United States
Local time: 13:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

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