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English translation: public area


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Spanish term or phrase:zona noble
English translation:public area
Entered by: MJ Barber
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10:10 Jun 26, 2003
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Tourism & Travel / hotels
Spanish term or phrase: zona noble
Para ello [construcción de un casino] hubo de ser demolida la zona noble del Hotel y reconstruida para ubicar la mayor sala de juegos de España y sus servicios complementarios

What is the zona noble of a hotel????? I've been googling and some hotels have it on the ground floor, while others have it on the first floor, but I still don't know what it is. One site has translated it as the 'most richly decorated floor'and another, calls the 'planta baja' the, wait for it, 'slowly plant', hahahahahahaha, so I don't think they will be much help.
MJ Barber
Local time: 18:24
public area
Explanation:
The "zonas nobles" of a hotel are simply the public areas (lobbies, sitting rooms, restaurant, etc.) as opposed to the guest rooms and private areas (kitchen, administrative offices, etc.).
In many tourist brochures you'll find "aire acondicionado sólo en zonas nobles", meaning there's a/c only in the public areas, and individual rooms aren't air-conditioned.

HTH,

Martin

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In many Spanish hotels they also speak of the \"planta noble\", which is the floor - generally the ground floor - where most of the public areas and facilities are located.

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Note added at 2003-06-26 11:22:02 (GMT)
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In many Spanish hotels they also speak of the \"planta noble\", which is the floor - generally the ground floor - where most of the public areas and facilities are located.

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Note added at 2003-06-26 11:23:40 (GMT)
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In many Spanish hotels they also speak of the \"planta noble\", which is the floor - generally the ground floor - where most of the public areas and facilities are located.

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Note added at 2003-06-26 13:14:06 (GMT)
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A couple of sites where you can check out the meaning:

http://www.grandmarinahotel.com/esp/facilities_contents.htm

http://www.hmontreal.com/logoimatges/serveis.html

http://www.es.laterooms.com/es/L6938.html

http://www.ifacanarias.es/castellano/dunamar.htm
Selected response from:

Martin Perazzo
Spain
Local time: 18:24
Grading comment
Thanks a lot. This makes sense.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2public areaMartin Perazzo
4 +3VIP area(s)
Parrot
4see referancessusanagonz
3foyerJudyK
4 -1just a hint
verbis
3reception rooms
moken
1LobbyVirginia L-D


  

Answers


8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
VIP area(s)


Explanation:
just an approximate suggestion (if it's to include the "palco presidencial" in a soccer stadium...)

Parrot
Spain
Local time: 18:24
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  verbis: yes, means "expensive" ;))))))
20 mins

neutral  Martin Perazzo: Not in the context of hotels, where the use of "zona VIP" is widespread (at least in Spain)
23 mins

agree  Connie Ibarzabal: either suites or special lounges they are still vip area
2 hrs

agree  Jorge Rubino
16 hrs
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
reception rooms


Explanation:
hi mj

from the definitions and descriptions i've found, this may be what you are looking for. perhaps you know of a better name for these areas in english, but i think "reception area/s" could be a bit confusing.

i got the idea combining these two notions:

Gobierno de Aragón
... Se han dispuesto cuatro grandes áreas: Zona noble o de representación, zona de servicio al público, dependencias para la asesoría y zona de servicios ...
www.aragob.es/pre/cido/armijo.htm - 7k - En caché - Páginas similares

Palacio de Miramar.Zona Noble
Salón Blanco Entrar, Salón de Música Entrar, Salón de Madera Entrar. Petit
Salón Entrar, Biblioteca Entrar, Comedor Real Entrar. Página de Inicio.
www.sc.ehu.es/scrwwwsu/Miramar/Noble1.html - 4k - En caché - Páginas similares



suerte, saludos y sonrisas,

álvaro


moken
Local time: 17:24
Works in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 78
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
Lobby


Explanation:
Me parece que hace referencia al "lobby" o vestíbulo del hotel.

Robot Mallorca - La técnica más humana - ... de Ingeniería y Obras diseño un Sistema de ... medida de las necesidades del Hotel, gestionando los ... Agua Caliente Piscinas, Climatización Zona Noble, Fan-Coils ...



    Reference: http://http:/www.robotmallorca.com/noti_02_es.php
Virginia L-D
United States
Local time: 12:24
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
just a hint


Explanation:
it means the area of the where the most expensive rooms are or used to be (for instance the rooms for kings and queens, "Royal Suites", etc.)

hth

ciao

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p.s.: rooms and facilities

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Note added at 2003-06-26 10:41:29 (GMT)
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pp.ss.: it is a pity you do not have to render it into Italian;)))))))
(zona nobile)

nice week-end to everybodyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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ppp.sss.: leave it in spanish within inverted commas, ahah, maybe it is a solution;))))))))))))))))))))

verbis
Local time: 18:25
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Martin Perazzo: Not that at all
5 mins
  -> ell, that's YOUR opinion;))))))
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29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
public area


Explanation:
The "zonas nobles" of a hotel are simply the public areas (lobbies, sitting rooms, restaurant, etc.) as opposed to the guest rooms and private areas (kitchen, administrative offices, etc.).
In many tourist brochures you'll find "aire acondicionado sólo en zonas nobles", meaning there's a/c only in the public areas, and individual rooms aren't air-conditioned.

HTH,

Martin

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Note added at 2003-06-26 10:44:28 (GMT)
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In many Spanish hotels they also speak of the \"planta noble\", which is the floor - generally the ground floor - where most of the public areas and facilities are located.

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Note added at 2003-06-26 11:22:02 (GMT)
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In many Spanish hotels they also speak of the \"planta noble\", which is the floor - generally the ground floor - where most of the public areas and facilities are located.

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Note added at 2003-06-26 11:23:40 (GMT)
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In many Spanish hotels they also speak of the \"planta noble\", which is the floor - generally the ground floor - where most of the public areas and facilities are located.

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Note added at 2003-06-26 13:14:06 (GMT)
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A couple of sites where you can check out the meaning:

http://www.grandmarinahotel.com/esp/facilities_contents.htm

http://www.hmontreal.com/logoimatges/serveis.html

http://www.es.laterooms.com/es/L6938.html

http://www.ifacanarias.es/castellano/dunamar.htm

Martin Perazzo
Spain
Local time: 18:25
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks a lot. This makes sense.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  verbis: so, what's left of the hotel?;)))))))) besos de verbisssssssssssssssss
35 mins
  -> If you read my reply, you'd know that "what's left" are the individual rooms themselves and the private or "off-limits" areas.

agree  Jane Lamb-Ruiz: why can't people see that this is the best explanation of all? It's so obvious from reading what and how you say it!!!
2 hrs

agree  Sheilann
9 hrs
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44 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
foyer


Explanation:
if it is in fact the communal area that is referred to here, then maybe foyer would be better

JudyK
Local time: 17:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Martin Perazzo: The foyer would be just one of the "zonas nobles", as other communal areas are included in the definition (TV lounge, bar/restaurant, lobby, gym/weight room, etc.)
30 mins
  -> yes, I see what you mean, thanks
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
see referances


Explanation:
These are some of the descriptions I've found and it seems as if the "zona noble" is the public area on the ground floor. This will be reception, bar, restaurant...

Lobby could be a solution but it is not exactly the same.
A hall, foyer, or waiting room at or near the entrance to a building, such as a hotel or theater

(www.dictionary.com)


    Reference: http://www.ambassador-inmobiliaria.com/amplia/v5457/nobles.h...
    Reference: http://www.sc.ehu.es/scrwwwsu/Miramar/Noble.html
susanagonz
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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