aspereza propia de cualquier caldo

English translation: which give all wines their sharpness

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Spanish term or phrase:aspereza propia de cualquier caldo
English translation:which give all wines their sharpness
Entered by: S Ben Price

21:24 Oct 1, 2008
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Wine / Oenology / Viticulture / young red wine
Spanish term or phrase: aspereza propia de cualquier caldo
I´m afraid I don´t know exactly which wine this is.

En boca es persistente, está bien constituido y tiene un cuerpo entre ligero y medio. Sabroso y aromático, trae reminiscencias de frutos del bosque y uva madura, casi pasa. Los taninos –**aspereza propia de cualquier caldo**– son dulces.
Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Local time: 21:55
which give all wines their sharpness
Explanation:
The tannins which give all wines their sharpness/edge/bite are fruity/sweet.

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Note added at 10 mins (2008-10-01 21:34:52 GMT)
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caldo = wine and aspereza=sharpness,according to my oxford. Lot of hits for wine and sharpness.
I left out some commas:
The tannins, which give all wines their sharpness, are sweet.

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Note added at 40 mins (2008-10-01 22:04:22 GMT)
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I don't they are contradictory - Tannins are acids, I believe, so there is the "sharpness" ... but ... think of balsamic vinegar, it both is acid and sweet. Tannic acid is also in woods like walnut, which have a bitter aspect and also a sweetish flavour.

I think I would go for "fruity" unless you are 100% sure it is a sweet/dessert wine. In California, people shudder if you call their wine "sweet", and immediately correct your philistine ignorance.

Also, there may be a certain amount of BS going on here. It is winespeak, after all.
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S Ben Price
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Local time: 21:55
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1...that gives that astringent quality of any must...
Enrique Huber (X)
3 +1which give all wines their sharpness
S Ben Price
4harsh in any product
Andres Pacheco
4tannins, although characteristically/typically sharp in any wine, here taste sweet
kironne


  

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which give all wines their sharpness


Explanation:
The tannins which give all wines their sharpness/edge/bite are fruity/sweet.

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Note added at 10 mins (2008-10-01 21:34:52 GMT)
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caldo = wine and aspereza=sharpness,according to my oxford. Lot of hits for wine and sharpness.
I left out some commas:
The tannins, which give all wines their sharpness, are sweet.

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Note added at 40 mins (2008-10-01 22:04:22 GMT)
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I don't they are contradictory - Tannins are acids, I believe, so there is the "sharpness" ... but ... think of balsamic vinegar, it both is acid and sweet. Tannic acid is also in woods like walnut, which have a bitter aspect and also a sweetish flavour.

I think I would go for "fruity" unless you are 100% sure it is a sweet/dessert wine. In California, people shudder if you call their wine "sweet", and immediately correct your philistine ignorance.

Also, there may be a certain amount of BS going on here. It is winespeak, after all.

S Ben Price
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Thanks S!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi S - is this not a contradiction, saying the tannins give sharpness but are sweet at the same time?


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agree  Donald Scott Alexander: nice rewording
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...that gives that astringent quality of any must...


Explanation:
aspereza refers to the astringent quality of must...

Enrique Huber (X)
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agree  MarinaM
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harsh in any product


Explanation:
Tanines are always ásperos...

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-10-01 23:03:45 GMT)
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'harsh as in any product' to keep it literal.

Andres Pacheco
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tannins, although characteristically/typically sharp in any wine, here taste sweet


Explanation:

I think this sentence is not necessary.

I'd go with "Sweet tannins".

But if you still want to be faithful to the source and include that part...

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This is clearly not a wine Bible, but it could help:

http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=51707

Q: I have read a number of tasting notes that refer to a wine as having "sweet tannins". Now, I am a novice at this but I have never encountered a wine with noticeable tannin where I would describe the tannins as "sweet". I have found sweetness from residual sugar (port, etc.) or perceived sweetness from fruitiness (zinfandel) but I have never found tannins to be sweet (I think that I get "grippy" and "firm").

Could "sweet tannins" be equated with "not too much tannin" or "integrated tannins"? Perhaps I just need to taste more wine ... such a fate!

A:
"... We should always remember that there are words and expressions we use when we are selling wine, and there are words and expressions we use when we are talking scientifically about wine.

The expression 'sweet tannins' is the in the first group.

I suppose that the person using these words might be trying to say:
a) the wine was aged in barrels that were heavily toasted
b) the wine was aged in barrels made of staves that were air dried 2+ years
c) the grapes were allowed to ripen to the point where the grape tannins were not harsh
d) the winemaking created conditions where the tannins could polymerize
e) the tannins are covered with alcohol (which gives a sweet impression)
f) some combination of the above ..."


I hope this helps...

• Stephen Tanzer's International Wine Cellar: Giovanni Corino, La Morra
Finishes with firm but sweet tannins and terrific persistence. ... Finishes with big, sweet tannins and lingering suggestions of plum and nuts. ...
http://www.wineaccess.com/expert/tanzer/article.html?content...

• Sweet and Sour Spectator: May 2005 Archives
Lush, chewey, good acidic backbone and quite firm but sweet tannins. This is great now and is going to be something quite special with a few more years on ...
http://www.sweetandsourspectator.org/archives/2005/05/

• Dobbes Family Estate
The mouth mirrors the aromas with full flavors of black cherries, blackberries and red currents wrapped within fine and sweet tannins. ...
http://www.dobbesfamilyestate.com/mercantool/mtool.pl?comman...

• sweet tannins wine reviews - buy sweet tannins wine
The best wine reviews and ratings from print, online, and broadcast wine critics combined into 1 simple score.
http://www.nirvino.com/search-wine-reviews/sweet-tannins/2

kironne
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