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English translation: from time immemorial

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16:02 Oct 19, 2008

Turkish to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Music / folk song

Turkish term or phrase: ezelden

Hi,

It's in this song:

BENI CANIMDAN AYIRDI
Söz ve Beste : Muzaffer Ilkar

Beni canimdan ayirdi gönlümü yikti temelden
Seni sevmek de suçmus ki bilmedim yandim ezelden
Seni bana beni sana kavustursun Yarab tez elden
Seni sevmek de suçmus ki bilmedim yandim ezelden

Many thanks

Simon

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Local time: 09:34

English translation:from time immemorial

Explanation:
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Note added at 22 mins (2008-10-19 16:25:09 GMT)
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This is a common exaggerated/overtoned usage in Turkish literature and folklore intended to emphasize that the pain of love makes the lover feel as if such pain had been with him/her for a very very long time even if it is not the reality.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-10-19 20:13:51 GMT)
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There is a similar usage in the Turkish National Anthem (poem version):

Ben ezelden beridir hür yaşadım hür yaşarım
(I have been free since the beginning and forever shall be so)

A Turk may know for how long his nation has been free/independent de facto; however, the poet chooses to reinforce it by using "ezelden beri" because he wants to emphasize the fact that the Turkish nation may not be enslaved under any circumstances (at no time) whatsoever.

Selected response from:

Çağdaş Karataş
Turkey
Local time: 11:34

Grading comment

many thanks, perfect example too!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

time immemorial

Selcuk Akyuz

from time immemorial

Çağdaş Karataş

remote since ages

Gül Akbelen

I am in gried from the time I fell in love with you

Nuri Razi

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

5 mins confidence:

ezel time immemorial

Explanation:
ezel: time immemorial
Here read "ezelden" as "ezel+den (beri)"

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Note added at 20 mins (2008-10-19 16:23:00 GMT)
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I didn't know that loving you was a sin, and (feel) burning in the hellfire from the time immemorial.

Selcuk Akyuz
Turkey
Local time: 11:34
Native speaker of:

Turkish

Notes to answerer

Asker: many thanks, but I don't quite see how that fits the context - the singer hasn't felt grieved (yanmak) from time immemorial as this has only happened with the heartbreak of her sad love affair - up till then she may well have been happy, unless I misunderstand, of course.

2 mins confidence:

from time immemorial

Çağdaş Karataş
Turkey
Local time: 11:34
Native speaker of:

Turkish
PRO pts in category: 8

Grading comment

many thanks, perfect example too!

Notes to answerer

15 hrs confidence:

remote since ages

Explanation:
I hope this one helps...

Gül Akbelen
Turkey
Local time: 11:34
Native speaker of:

Turkish

22 hrs confidence:

I am in gried from the time I fell in love with you

Explanation:
Loving you is guilt, maybe I fell in grief since I'd fell in love with you,

I hope this one suits for time immemorial :)

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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-10-20 14:05:00 GMT)
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pardon cevaptaki gried grief olacak.

Nuri Razi
Turkey
Local time: 11:34
Native speaker of:

Turkish
PRO pts in category: 8

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