| Pages in topic: < [1 2 3] > | Facebook link in initial posts of forum threads Thread poster: Jack Doughty
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| The feature is completely optional to use, and you can opt out completely at any time | Sep 9, 2010 |
Hi all,
The feature is optional, of course, and those who wish may opt out from even seeing it. Those who do use Facebook may find it useful in sharing interesting topics or information posted in ProZ.com forums among their own networks. Note that when you post in the forums, you also have the option to instantaneously share that post with your networks on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook.
To be honest I am not aware of a "Like" feature for LinkedIn. If there is one, it ... See more Hi all,
The feature is optional, of course, and those who wish may opt out from even seeing it. Those who do use Facebook may find it useful in sharing interesting topics or information posted in ProZ.com forums among their own networks. Note that when you post in the forums, you also have the option to instantaneously share that post with your networks on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook.
To be honest I am not aware of a "Like" feature for LinkedIn. If there is one, it may be an interesting addition.
As Nesrin mentions, there are networks and groups of translators on Facebook (and many other social networking sites), and there is a lot of sharing of interesting information and discussion going on in those networks. ProZ.com has groups on several sites, including Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter, where news and information from the site get posted, discussed, and where members of those groups are welcome to collaborate as well. In this sense, these social networking sites represent an additional tool available to translators and a way to stay on top of what is going on in the industry. It all depends on how you use them.
Regarding the change in the way quotes appear in forum posts, I'm not sure what happened. I'll see what can be done to restore that.
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| | | | | Question to Jared | Sep 9, 2010 |
Jared wrote:
Hi all,
The feature is optional, of course, and those who wish may opt out from even seeing it. Those who do use Facebook may find it useful in sharing interesting topics or information posted in ProZ.com forums among their own networks. Note that when you post in the forums, you also have the option to instantaneously share that post with your networks on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook.
To be honest I am not aware of a "Like" feature for LinkedIn. If there is one, it may be an interesting addition.
As Nesrin mentions, there are networks and groups of translators on Facebook (and many other social networking sites), and there is a lot of sharing of interesting information and discussion going on in those networks. ProZ.com has groups on several sites, including Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter, where news and information from the site get posted, discussed, and where members of those groups are welcome to collaborate as well. In this sense, these social networking sites represent an additional tool available to translators and a way to stay on top of what is going on in the industry. It all depends on how you use them.
Regarding the change in the way quotes appear in forum posts, I'm not sure what happened. I'll see what can be done to restore that.
Jared
Thank you, Jared, for your answer, but there's a part of the question which is not answered:
Let's imagine that I select the "not sharing on FB" setting on ProZ. OK ? But, one day, I reply to a forum thread, that the instigator of which has decided to share on FB, will my own data (and the access to my own profile) be visible on FB, even if I set my parameter on "not sharing"?
For me, this is the most critical point.
Thank you in advance for your answer.
P.S. : LinkedIn is different from FB, because, as "Viadeo" (very popular in Europe), it is a professional network.
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Catherine GUILLIAUMET wrote: Jared wrote:
Hi all,
The feature is optional, of course, and those who wish may opt out from even seeing it. Those who do use Facebook may find it useful in sharing interesting topics or information posted in ProZ.com forums among their own networks. Note that when you post in the forums, you also have the option to instantaneously share that post with your networks on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook.
To be honest I am not aware of a "Like" feature for LinkedIn. If there is one, it may be an interesting addition.
As Nesrin mentions, there are networks and groups of translators on Facebook (and many other social networking sites), and there is a lot of sharing of interesting information and discussion going on in those networks. ProZ.com has groups on several sites, including Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter, where news and information from the site get posted, discussed, and where members of those groups are welcome to collaborate as well. In this sense, these social networking sites represent an additional tool available to translators and a way to stay on top of what is going on in the industry. It all depends on how you use them.
Regarding the change in the way quotes appear in forum posts, I'm not sure what happened. I'll see what can be done to restore that.
Jared Thank you, Jared, for your answer, but there's a part of the question which is not answered: Let's imagine that I select the "not sharing on FB" setting on ProZ. OK ? But, one day, I reply to a forum thread, that the instigator of which has decided to share on FB, will my own data (and the access to my own profile) be visible on FB, even if I set my parameter on "not sharing"? For me, this is the most critical point. Thank you in advance for your answer. P.S. : LinkedIn is different from FB, because, as "Viadeo" (very popular in Europe), it is a professional network.
Hi Catherine!
Let me get a screenshot of what a shared topic would look like on Facebook to show you:
Basically what is shared is the title of the topic, with a link back to the topic. No data or access is given which is not given on the site. Someone could follow the link back to the thread, and reading it, see your post, of course, but this is no different than what would happen if I came across a topic in a Google search and followed the link back, or saw the thread on the home page and clicked it to read more.
Jared
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Jared wrote:
Someone could follow the link back to the thread, and reading it, see your post, of course, but this is no different than what would happen if I came across a topic in a Google search and followed the link back
...and I think we all know how many people access Proz pages, and our personal profiles, by typing in random stuff on Google (as shown by some ridiculous emails we occasionally receive!)
So personally, I wouldn't put anything on my Proz profile that I wouldn't be prepared to share with the world, cause it already is!!
[Edited at 2010-09-09 10:48 GMT]
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| A very numerous "someone" :-) | Sep 9, 2010 |
Jared wrote:
Thank you, Jared, for your answer, but there's a part of the question which is not answered:
Let's imagine that I select the "not sharing on FB" setting on ProZ. OK ? But, one day, I reply to a forum thread, that the instigator of which has decided to share on FB, will my own data (and the access to my own profile) be visible on FB, even if I set my parameter on "not sharing"?
For me, this is the most critical point.
Thank you in advance for your answer.
P.S. : LinkedIn is different from FB, because, as "Viadeo" (very popular in Europe), it is a professional network.
Hi Catherine!
Let me get a screenshot of what a shared topic would look like on Facebook to show you:
Basically what is shared is the title of the topic, with a link back to the topic. No data or access is given which is not given on the site. Someone could follow the link back to the thread, and reading it, see your post, of course, but this is no different than what would happen if I came across a topic in a Google search and followed the link back, or saw the thread on the home page and clicked it to read more.
Jared [/quote]
Thank you Jared. This is clear now, but may I say that your "someone" is, at least, 400 millions of people (data on Feb., 5th, 2010) and is still growing.
Let me empathize with the ProZ team who will be soon drown in the "ticket supports" for spam and other complaints for undesirable mailing. Sincerely, I wish them good luck and advise to take vitamins !
A google search needs a specific search, which is not the case with Facebook.
To be "open to change" might mean being open to superfluous problems in some cases.
Have a nice day
Catherine
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United Kingdom
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| Can I just clarify... | Sep 9, 2010 |
Catherine GUILLIAUMET wrote:
Thank you Jared. This is clear now, but may I say that your "someone" is, at least, 400 millions of people (data on Feb., 5th, 2010) and is still growing.
Let me empathize with the ProZ team who will be soon drown in the "ticket supports" for spam and other complaints for undesirable mailing.
Catherine
Can I just clarify, Catherine, (and excuse me if you already know that), that as a general rule, when someone posts something to their FB page, only their friends get to see it, not 400 million people..
Plus, why on earth would a spammer go the impossibly convoluted way of accessing your profile through someone's private FB profile (if somehow they have access to it) through a Proz forum link - Not saying it's impossible, but isn't Google so much easier, and accessible to far more than 400 million people?
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| | | | | The source of the problem | Sep 9, 2010 |
Nesrin wrote: Catherine GUILLIAUMET wrote:
Thank you Jared. This is clear now, but may I say that your "someone" is, at least, 400 millions of people (data on Feb., 5th, 2010) and is still growing.
Let me empathize with the ProZ team who will be soon drown in the "ticket supports" for spam and other complaints for undesirable mailing.
Catherine Can I just clarify, Catherine, (and excuse me if you already know that), that as a general rule, when someone posts something to their FB page, only their friends get to see it, not 400 million people.. Plus, why on earth would a spammer go the impossibly convoluted way of accessing your profile through someone's private FB profile (if somehow they have access to it) through a Proz forum link - Not saying it's impossible, but isn't Google so much easier, and accessible to far more than 400 million people? [Edited at 2010-09-09 11:21 GMT]
Hi Nesrin,
The source, I should write "sources", of the problem is /are :
1) the 170 privacy parameters that a FB user must set if s/he wants to use the network safely (I found the number of parameters in a specialized informatics journal, it may be a little higher or lower). I fully understand that all FB users have no time to set this mass of parameters.
2) Some other specialized sites exist, which analyse the FB database and extract personal data of any person quoted on FB (even if not member of FB) and register these data, and finally publish them on the Net without the person's consent. Let me quote some French ones : Pages Blanches/Pages Jaunes, Radaris (not sure it is purely French and another big one I can't remember it's name. They work by cross-reference.
3) On Google, you must enter a specific word/name to launch the search.
It is how I understand it and, please, excuse me, but it is so difficult for me to explain that in English
Have a nice day
Catherine
| | | | | I don't see how this would be a source of spam or undesired email | Sep 9, 2010 |
Catherine GUILLIAUMET wrote:
Let me empathize with the ProZ team who will be soon drown in the "ticket supports" for spam and other complaints for undesirable mailing. Sincerely, I wish them good luck and advise to take vitamins !
A google search needs a specific search, which is not the case with Facebook.
To be "open to change" might mean being open to superfluous problems in some cases.
Have a nice day
Catherine
Hi Catherine,
The "Share this" option (which allows members to share interesting topics with their networks over a large number of social networks) has been available in the forums since the beginning of this year, and I have seen no reports of spam or undesired emailing related to this feature. I'm not really sure how that would occur, but I may be missing something.
The Facebook button, like other social networking features introduced on the site, are merely optional tools to allow members who do use those social networking sites to share translation-related information more easily.
Jared
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| I am also against | Sep 9, 2010 |
Jared wrote:
Hi all,
The feature is optional, of course, and those who wish may opt out from even seeing it. Those who do use Facebook may find it useful in sharing interesting topics or information posted in ProZ.com forums among their own networks. Note that when you post in the forums, you also have the option to instantaneously share that post with your networks on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook.
To be honest I am not aware of a "Like" feature for LinkedIn. If there is one, it may be an interesting addition.
As Nesrin mentions, there are networks and groups of translators on Facebook (and many other social networking sites), and there is a lot of sharing of interesting information and discussion going on in those networks. ProZ.com has groups on several sites, including Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter, where news and information from the site get posted, discussed, and where members of those groups are welcome to collaborate as well. In this sense, these social networking sites represent an additional tool available to translators and a way to stay on top of what is going on in the industry. It all depends on how you use them.
Regarding the change in the way quotes appear in forum posts, I'm not sure what happened. I'll see what can be done to restore that.
Jared
Dear Jared,
Those, as you said, are social sites, created for fun and here - we work. I am also against. For me it is unprofessional. Everything I need from PROZ I can find on PROZ. I do not need links to Facebook. Everything I need from Facebook I can find on Facebook - at my free time.
[Edited at 2010-09-09 13:06 GMT]
[Edited at 2010-09-09 13:06 GMT]
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| The difference | Sep 9, 2010 |
Nesrin wrote: Jared wrote:
Someone could follow the link back to the thread, and reading it, see your post, of course, but this is no different than what would happen if I came across a topic in a Google search and followed the link back ...and I think we all know how many people access Proz pages, and our personal profiles, by typing in random stuff on Google (as shown by some ridiculous emails we occasionally receive!) So personally, I wouldn't put anything on my Proz profile that I wouldn't be prepared to share with the world, cause it already is!! [Edited at 2010-09-09 10:48 GMT]
Dear Nesrin,
But I find a big difference between finding you on Google and on Facebook. Besides, if you can find PROZ in Google, I see no point in putting links to Facebook.
For me and many of my friends, it is a site connected with free time and private life (if there is somethink like privacy on the Internet) 
[Edited at 2010-09-09 13:09 GMT]
| | | | | It may be useful | Sep 9, 2010 |
I find the new implementation useful.
I started it recently (2-3 months ago) but some people in internet love to record and share his/her activities on such social places.
As far as I know when you press the like button an information will be dropped on your wall saying "this person liked ...."
And those records are used as a diary and it is useful to read what you have done once in a month.
So I find it useful and would like to suggest also a ... See more I find the new implementation useful.
I started it recently (2-3 months ago) but some people in internet love to record and share his/her activities on such social places.
As far as I know when you press the like button an information will be dropped on your wall saying "this person liked ...."
And those records are used as a diary and it is useful to read what you have done once in a month.
So I find it useful and would like to suggest also a twitter sign (current system sends tweets to twitter only if you wrote something, if possible please put a sign and let us choose what to tweet)
Best Regards,
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| | | | | Side note on the quotes in forum posts | Sep 9, 2010 |
Hi all,
Thanks for reporting the problem with the appearance of quotes in forum posts. They are back to normal now.
Jared
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Katia Perry
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| I fully agree with Nesrin and Jared and Bayraktar | Sep 9, 2010 |
I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, yet. Probably I will do it in the future, since it seems that many interesting discussions take place there.
I know many highly professional people that use these "tools" professionally, not only for fun. On the other way, I have found many silly postings and discussions here in proz.com, too. I mean, all these are public places with the pros and cons of every human community.
Sorry, but I really didn't understand the reason for such a ... See more I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, yet. Probably I will do it in the future, since it seems that many interesting discussions take place there.
I know many highly professional people that use these "tools" professionally, not only for fun. On the other way, I have found many silly postings and discussions here in proz.com, too. I mean, all these are public places with the pros and cons of every human community.
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| I am still against ;) | Sep 9, 2010 |
perry wrote:
I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, yet. Probably I will do it in the future, since it seems that many interesting discussions take place there.
I know many highly professional people that use these "tools" professionally, not only for fun. On the other way, I have found many silly postings and discussions here in proz.com, too. I mean, all these are public places with the pros and cons of every human community.
Sorry, but I really didn't understand the reason for such a concern!
Dear Perry,
The fact, that you have found many silly postings and discussions in ProZ is very sad, but we all know that ProZ was not created for silly posting.
The fact that everything is connected these days does not mean that we have to do the same.
We should be unique and special
The option "like" is a subject of jokes among my friends 
[Edited at 2010-09-10 07:15 GMT]
| | | | Jeremy Smith
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| Why does Facebook get special treatment though? | Sep 9, 2010 |
There's already the "Share this" button at the top of each page. Facebook is included among the sharing options. Why does Facebook get to elbow its way into the body of the forum text? Are they paying Proz for this, or are you giving them lots of free traffic and data out of the goodness of your collective heart?
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