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Ana Carneiro  Identity Verified
Portugal
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Aug 2, 2009

Hello everybody,
After a frustrating week were my Word (Office XP and Windows Vista) application is crashing all the time, and the Trados menu appearing and disappearing when it feels like, I decided it was time to go back to my first “lover” in terms of computers: the Mac (I started working with it in 1988, and I only abandoned it because at a certain time it was too expensive).
I surfed a little through this forum and I found out that the better software to work with Wordfast (I am abandoning Trados as well) is Windows 2004. My question is: what computer shall I buy (I am a computer illiterate, so the technical jargon is completely lost on my). I saw a MacBook Pro, which is not that cheap, and I was wondering if it would be a good decision, that is, if Wordfast will work on it.
I would appreciate some enlightenment from the more experienced of you.
Thanks in advance.
Ana


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Daniel Grau  Identity Verified
Argentina
English to Spanish
Why a notebook? Aug 3, 2009

You pay a premium for portables, as compared to what you would get for a desktop computer, whatever the brand. So, do you actually need the portability? The all-in-one iMacs are a delight, fast and quite affordable, and you can easily move them from one room to the other.

At any rate, I would put it this way: decide how much you want to spend in your main translator's tool, and then go to the store. You'll never regret buying the best tool you can afford.

Check prices and models here: http://store.apple.com/usd .

Daniel


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Epameinondas Soufleros  Identity Verified
Greece
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Not the way to go Aug 3, 2009

Why spend all that money in order to use Wordfast, instead of investing only a fraction of that cost to buy a robust, stable, integrated CAT tool, such as MemoQ?

And no, a Mac is not at all more stable or reliable than a PC… It's too much eye-candy used in a wrong way, i.e. to conceal programming gaffes (and there are too many of them in a Mac).


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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 07:16
German to Spanish
Mac Aug 3, 2009

Epameinondas Soufleros wrote:

Why spend all that money in order to use Wordfast, instead of investing only a fraction of that cost to buy a robust, stable, integrated CAT tool, such as MemoQ?

AFAIK MemoQ is for Windoof



And no, a Mac is not at all more stable or reliable than a PC… It's too much eye-candy used in a wrong way, i.e. to conceal programming gaffes (and there are too many of them in a Mac).


It depends, for me to use Windoof is like to play football with flip-flops. For Audio and photgraphy there is nothing compares as a Mac. And for "easy life", meaning daily task in computer, is perfect. And yes also a eye candy, or you don't like to eat in a nice table with nice prepared meals and without virus?


Regards


I am still using Tageditor with XP in my Mac. Till I find something better for Mac.


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Rodolfo Raya  Identity Verified
Local time: 03:16
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Mac Mini Aug 3, 2009

If you don't need a notebook, get a Mac Mini. They are cheap and very nice.

Regards,
Rodolfo


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Sergei Tumanov  Identity Verified
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Mac Aug 3, 2009

Wordfast (5th) works on Mac (MacBook Pro + Word, MS Office for Mac 2004)
Plus
You can have a Microsoft Windows on your Mac and use all standard windows' applications which you like.

Actually, buying a Mac today looks like buying two computers for the price of one (a quality one).


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Laurent KRAULAND  Identity Verified
France
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Advice needed Aug 3, 2009

Sergei Tumanov wrote:

You can have a Microsoft Windows on your Mac and use all standard windows' applications which you like.

Actually, buying a Mac today looks like buying two computers for the price of one (a quality one).


Hi everybody,
I have purchased an iMac and have heard about the Parallels software to run both OS X (Leopard and soon Snow Leopard) and a virtual PC OS on this machine.
Anybody knowing of other possibilities?

MTIA
Laurent K.


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Cetacea  Identity Verified
Switzerland
Local time: 07:16
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Boot Camp Aug 3, 2009

ScottishWildCat wrote:
I have purchased an iMac and have heard about the Parallels software to run both OS X (Leopard and soon Snow Leopard) and a virtual PC OS on this machine.
Anybody knowing of other possibilities?
MTIA
Laurent K.


Hi Laurent,
If your iMac has Leopard installed, there is a utility called "Boot Camp" already included which let's you install and run Microsoft OS. However, you can't run the two operating systems in parallel, you'll need to reboot in order to switch between Microsoft and Mac OS. Have a look here:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/compatibility.html


[Edited at 2009-08-03 13:21 GMT]


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Laurent KRAULAND  Identity Verified
France
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TYVM Aug 3, 2009

Cetacea wrote:
Have a look here:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/compatibility.html


[Edited at 2009-08-03 13:21 GMT]



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Cetacea  Identity Verified
Switzerland
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Strange... Aug 3, 2009

Epameinondas Soufleros wrote:
And no, a Mac is not at all more stable or reliable than a PC… It's too much eye-candy used in a wrong way, i.e. to conceal programming gaffes (and there are too many of them in a Mac).


Hmm, let me see: I've switched to Mac in 1995, and how many times has my Mac crashed in 14 years? Oh yes: Never! Plus it's a lot easier to use, and not just for photo work. As for programming gaffes, I suppose there aren't any on Windows (which, by the way, has become a pale imitation of Max OSX)? Funny, that's not what my colleagues still working with Windows tell me...

In other words: Macs are a lot more stable and reliable than PCs. Period. There is eye candy, of course, but that's not necessarily a bad thing if you're sitting in front of your machine for hours each day.


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Ana Carneiro  Identity Verified
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Thank you Sergei Aug 3, 2009

Sergei Tumanov wrote:

Wordfast (5th) works on Mac (MacBook Pro + Word, MS Office for Mac 2004)
Plus
You can have a Microsoft Windows on your Mac and use all standard windows' applications which you like.

Actually, buying a Mac today looks like buying two computers for the price of one (a quality one).


That is what I really wanted to know, and what I am going to buy.


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Ana Carneiro  Identity Verified
Portugal
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Hello Daniel Aug 3, 2009

Daniel Grau wrote:

You pay a premium for portables, as compared to what you would get for a desktop computer, whatever the brand. So, do you actually need the portability? The all-in-one iMacs are a delight, fast and quite affordable, and you can easily move them from one room to the other.

At any rate, I would put it this way: decide how much you want to spend in your main translator's tool, and then go to the store. You'll never regret buying the best tool you can afford.

Check prices and models here: http://store.apple.com/usd .

Daniel


Yes I know, but I need a computer that allows me to travel and, sometimes, get out of the house and work in a place where there's wifi. I took a look at the website and was surprised to see that the prices are very similar (if not the same, if you consider that the euro is worth more than the dollar). Years ago the difference was huge, and that's why I bought (several) Pc's.
Anyway, thanks.


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Ana Carneiro  Identity Verified
Portugal
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Thank you all Aug 3, 2009

It looks like I launched the (not unusual) debate Mac versus PC. As I said, I know nothing about computer programming and what I want is something that works without crashing every five minutes (I am talking about the software, because what I have now is an LG with Windows Vista, and the machine works OK. However, the Word is crashing everytime I open a document in Word 2007.)
I was thinking to buy the Office 2007 package, which costs around 500 euros, when I found out that Trados 2006 will not work with it. I must say that I am not happy with Tados support, because everytime I asked for help I got no answer (I would, of course, if I paid them for the service), and for the price I paid for the program I think they should be more supportive. I get more help from the ProZ Forum about Trados than I ever had from Trados itself.
So this would mean that I would have to purchase another version os Trados, possibly Studio - and everybody is screaming and yelling about it. Besides, it costs between 525 and 825 euros, which added to the Office software, is almost the price of a new Mac.
Like Cetacea, I worked with Mac's for around 12 years, and I only had one problem with it, and that was due to a solar storm.
I cannot say the same of my experience with Windows. Besides, everytime the system crashes I have to send it back to the manufacturer representative to reconfigure the whole thing.
Anyway, many thanks to you all. I will probably be asking for help from you again when I get the new machine, but I think my mind is set now as to what to buy.
Ana


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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 07:16
German to Spanish
Both worlds Aug 3, 2009

ScottishWildCat wrote:


I have purchased an iMac and have heard about the Parallels software to run both OS X (Leopard and soon Snow Leopard) and a virtual PC OS on this machine.
Anybody knowing of other possibilities?

MTIA
Laurent K.


I am using VMware Fusion with my Macbook Pro. It works fine. I have a Windows XP installed (I think it is better for Trados) with the OS reduce (so less "services" as possible, also no Internet) for maximal use of Trados and nothing more. With "Space" I have it in the 2 screen, so I go from screen 1 Mac OSX to screen 2 XP with a key combination, the 2 OS are simply like 2 application in my Mac.



Wordfast Classic seems to work fine in a Mac with Word 2004. The new one (javascript), I don't know, I tried it but I don't have a good feeling.

Regards






[Edited at 2009-08-03 15:37 GMT]


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Ius Translation
United States
Local time: 01:16
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Boot Camp has never failed me ! Aug 3, 2009

Dear ScottishWildCat:

As Fernando Toledo & Sergei Tumanov put it: I still use Trados with my mac and that's how you can have a Mac and a PC in one package!

Enjoy it !

Romina


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