Kakushin linguist group
Thread poster: Olga Dyussengaliyeva

Olga Dyussengaliyeva  Identity Verified
Kazakhstan
Local time: 01:38
English to Russian
+ ...
Jul 18, 2012

Recently there was a job posting at Proz.com with title: All languages into ENG, long-term
After applying I received instruction on paying 20 Euro of membership fee in the kakushin linguist group which is, as instruction says, not an agency but a group of people with client network. The link to the group website actually opened a website on living and working in Turkey, can't see how the two are related. Is anyone aware of this group, become a member or has any thoughts on this - feasibility of paying membership in the first line of course?


 

Lori Cirefice  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 21:38
French to English
sounds fishy Jul 18, 2012

This sounds really fishy to me - I would steer clear of anything that requires a fee to get jobs. You might even send a query about the job posting to site staff, perhaps they can do something.

 

Joao Vasconcelos  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 20:38
Member (2011)
English to Portuguese
+ ...
fishy indeed Jul 18, 2012

I received their email and instructions for payment today. I checked their website http://turkishexpert.info/index.php/en/ and, as you can see for yourself, the contents are weird to say the least. I have chosen not to pay the 20 euros.

 

Alejandro Cavalitto
Local time: 17:38
SITE STAFF
Appropriate action has been taken Jul 18, 2012

Hello,

Thanks for reporting this. Site staff has taken action in this situation. Note that, while I cannot confirm whether this company is legitimate or not, I can confirm that requesting payment from service providers is in direct violation of job posting rule #1.2, http://www.proz.com/siterules/jobs_posting/1.2#1.2

If you see any more job postings with similar terms, please submit a support request so site staff can take action swiftly.

Best regards,
Alejandro


 

Vicente Victorica  Identity Verified
Local time: 14:38
Member (2011)
English to Spanish
Other tips identifying spammy posters Jul 18, 2012

I seemed attractive but I found this red flags:
-They used a free e-mail system (such as gmail or hotmail), not a company e-mail
-They said their blue board status was good but they were not even listed
-They ask for a direct payment with paypal, instead of having a website with an automatic charging system
so... let's be cautious. Reading Proz guidelines will help a lot as well...



[Edited at 2012-07-18 16:53 GMT]


 

Christoffer Rosendahl
Sweden
Local time: 21:38
English to Swedish
+ ...
Another e-mail Jul 25, 2012

I also received this offer and just like the rest of you, I was a bit suspicious. I googled the name and found this thread, so I decided to ignore the e-mail. But a few days later I received another e-mail from the same person, asking me if I wanted to join another "association" called the "Matrix 2012 Group".

The description of this association was similar to the Kakushin group, but this one was apparently free of charge. I asked why I was sent 2 invitations and got the reply that my name was mixed with another person with a similar name.

I'm still a bit suspicious, but being new to the industry and related scams, I can't help but wondering. What is the worst that can happen if I send them my rates, pais, specialties and services, which is all of the information they wanted? They say it's a non-binding offer and that I will sign a freelance non-disclosure agreement, and my details will be protected, etc.


 


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