Non payers arrested
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Uldis Liepkalns  Identity Verified
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May 30, 2012

The Spanish authorities have arrested the supposed owners of a
translation agency who didn't pay the translators, plus identity theft :

http://www.lavanguardia.com/local/barcelona/20120530/54301012551/detienen-en-barcelona-a-los-responsables-de-una-empresa-por-estafar-a-traductores.html


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Tom in London
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Interesting but.... May 30, 2012

Uldis Liepkalns wrote:

The Spanish authorities have arrested the supposed owners of a
translation agency who didn't pay the translators, plus identity theft :

http://www.lavanguardia.com/local/barcelona/20120530/54301012551/detienen-en-barcelona-a-los-responsables-de-una-empresa-por-estafar-a-traductores.html




Interesting but the report doesn't name the "agency". I wonder if it is/was registered with Proz?


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Uldis Liepkalns  Identity Verified
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Yes, it has a BB record May 30, 2012

but Proz Rules doesn't allow mentioning names.

Uldis

Tom in London wrote:
Interesting but the report doesn't name the "agency". I wonder if it is/was registered with Proz?


[Rediģēts plkst. 2012-05-30 20:56 GMT]


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Jānis Greivuls
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... May 30, 2012

Tom in London wrote:

Interesting but the report doesn't name the "agency". I wonder if it is/was registered with Proz?



Please see the comments to the article...8-)

[Rediģēts plkst. 2012-05-30 21:31 GMT]


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Robert Forstag  Identity Verified
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It looks like the comment on the article that named the agency was erased May 31, 2012

I am guessing that the company in question is the one that has 10 BB entries of 1 and one of 2, with corresponding comments re non-payment.

I guess that the laws in Spain are strict re naming the accused and their companies (note that the last names of the couple are not provided in the article).

Anyway, I would appreciate if someone would confirm that the above deduction is correct.

Thank you.

[Edited at 2012-05-31 00:54 GMT]


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Jānis Greivuls
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No 2s, only 1s May 31, 2012

Robert Forstag wrote:

I am guessing that the company in question is the one that has 10 BB entries of 1 and one of 2, with corresponding comments re non-payment.

I guess that the laws in Spain are strict re naming the accused and their companies (note that the last names of the couple are not provided in the article).

Anyway, I would appreciate if someone would confirm that the above deduction is correct.

Thank you.

[Edited at 2012-05-31 00:54 GMT]


The question in the first comment there gives the answer, I guess.


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Robert Forstag  Identity Verified
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@Jānis May 31, 2012

Thank you.

That first comment was not there about 8 hours ago.

I've never seen such a horrible BB record. I guess that these people had quite a scam going.

Nice to see they are out of commission, at least for a while....


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LegalTransform  Identity Verified
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Non payers arrested May 31, 2012

Someone should contact all those who posted on the BlueBoard and let them know how they can contact the Spanish police and add to the charges of these criminals.

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Catherine GUILLIAUMET  Identity Verified
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Done ! May 31, 2012

Jeff Whittaker wrote:

Someone should contact all those who posted on the BlueBoard and let them know how they can contact the Spanish police and add to the charges of these criminals.



Done !

Have a nice evening

Catherine


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jyuan_us  Identity Verified
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Is the police' action approriate? May 31, 2012

Is not making a payment due a criminal act? If so, why the hell do so many agencies dare to refuse to pay?

I'm one of the victims of a guy in Houston, who disappeared owing me $700, and at least 7 thousand dollars to other translators.

[Edited at 2012-05-31 21:04 GMT]


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xxxchristela
No May 31, 2012

jyuan_us wrote:

Is not making a payment due a criminal act?


But identity theft is. And selling stolen goods or services.


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Parrot  Identity Verified
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@jyuan_us May 31, 2012

Police action was not taken on the default alone. Here's a translation of paragraph 7 of the article:

"For this reason, the parties under investigation are attributed 17 counts of identity theft, 12 crimes of fraud, 24 offences of fraud, two offences of harassment and one offence of threats. The amount embezzled adds up to some 20,000 euro."

Investigations started in April, not before, and were provoked by someone being wrongly sued for payment. A report from that person set the police on the trail.

(Small claims -- by definition, under 3000 euro -- are resolved in Spain through the "proceso monitorio", a simplified complaint that does not require any lawyers).


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Non payers Aug 15, 2012

German criminal police is dealing with my non payer after I paid my German lawyer and got nothing!

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