A matter of fraud (interpreter scam)
Thread poster: Genevieve Tournebize

Genevieve Tournebize
Local time: 19:55
English to French
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Feb 25, 2005

I was contacted by a person who claim he was a prince in Ghana and was needing an interpreter in Spanish because he was coming to my city and his wife was not an English speaker. We communicated several times about the timing and the price for the interpretation (10 days, 5 hrs a day). He said that I would be paid ahead of time. As the emails went on he told me that he someone in the US would send me a check because he had some business in the US. I did not see any problem with that. Close to the date he was coming he told me that the check would be for more than my fees and that I should send the rest of the money by Western Union to his agent in Ghana. I waited for the check because I did not know for sure what to expect from this although I was suspicious. The check came a Friday and the person and his family were supposed to arrive the following Tuesday. The check was for $4800 and I was told to send the remaining part of the check right away with the information needed to retreive it. My bank did not want to clear the check (this was a bank check not an individual check) but my husband bank did. I was going to send the remainder of the money but I had some doubts. I checked over the net if there was an agency in Ghana with the name I was given or a prince with the name he had given me. I could not really find anything consistant. I called Western Union to ask them what they thought about this and they told me that most likely it was a fake check because apparently there is a lot of fraud similar to this coming from Africa and Spain. I kept the check deposited in my bank until naturally 10 days later it was proven that it was fake. You would think that banks can check checks right away especially when they are written by another bank as a cashier's check. Apparently not, if we had sent the money there is nothing we could have done to retreive it and the bank would have asked us to pay it back even though we were victim of a fraud. Beware international fraud is high and they are attacking everyone that is interested to earn a living decently.

Genevieve

[Subject edited by staff or moderator 2005-02-25 16:17]


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Magda Dziadosz  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 02:55
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It's a popular scheme Feb 25, 2005

Hi Genevieve,
Sorry to hear about that story - good that you haven't sent any money!

This scam is known for some time already. You (and others) may like to check previous threads:
http://www.proz.com/topic/29704
http://www.proz.com/topic/29490
http://www.proz.com/topic/26069

Be careful!!

Magda

PS. I moved this thread from Technical Suport forum, it seems to fit better to Business Issues


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Yolanda Broad  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 20:55
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Other forum threads dedicated to this subject Feb 25, 2005

It's good to have another reminder about this scam, because it doesn't look like it's going to die away all that soon.

Other forum threads where the subject is discussed:

http://www.proz.com/topic/29490
http://www.proz.com/topic/29005
http://www.proz.com/topic/26069 [Ulrike Lieder's message in this thread gives some very good tips!]
http://www.proz.com/topic/27732
http://www.proz.com/topic/26822

Etc... (use forum search function to locate more related topics)

These folks keep very busy targeting interpreters, don't they?

[Edited at 2005-02-25 16:24]


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Juan Jacob  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 19:55
French to Spanish
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Prince in Ghana! Feb 25, 2005

That's a good one!
I'm the King of Mexico, gimmi your money!


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Kathinka van de Griendt  Identity Verified
Local time: 03:55
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Nigeria Connection ... Feb 25, 2005

is what this bunch of "Princes, Ministers, Presidents, etc" is called. They work in all trades, accost everyone and usually have this heart-rending story to tell. A friend of mine lost over €10 000 in one of these scams

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Genevieve Tournebize
Local time: 19:55
English to French
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thank you, I have to be more careful and read everything on this site. Feb 25, 2005

Magda Dziadosz wrote:

Hi Genevieve,
Sorry to hear about that story - good that you haven't sent any money!

This scam is known for some time already. You (and others) may like to check previous threads:
http://www.proz.com/topic/29704
http://www.proz.com/topic/29490
http://www.proz.com/topic/26069

Be careful!!

Magda

PS. I moved this thread from Technical Suport forum, it seems to fit better to Business Issues


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Genevieve Tournebize
Local time: 19:55
English to French
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TOPIC STARTER
Thank you Feb 25, 2005

Yolanda Broad wrote:

It's good to have another reminder about this scam, because it doesn't look like it's going to die away all that soon.

Other forum threads where the subject is discussed:

http://www.proz.com/topic/29490
http://www.proz.com/topic/29005
http://www.proz.com/topic/26069 [Ulrike Lieder's message in this thread gives some very good tips!]
http://www.proz.com/topic/27732
http://www.proz.com/topic/26822

Etc... (use forum search function to locate more related topics)

These folks keep very busy targeting interpreters, don't they?

[Edited at 2005-02-25 16:24]


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Genevieve Tournebize
Local time: 19:55
English to French
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You are right. There is a president in Ghana no prince... he almost got me believing. Feb 25, 2005

Juan Jacob wrote:

That's a good one!
I'm the King of Mexico, gimmi your money!


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Genevieve Tournebize
Local time: 19:55
English to French
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you can never be too careful... Feb 25, 2005

Kathinka Lavelle wrote:

is what this bunch of "Princes, Ministers, Presidents, etc" is called. They work in all trades, accost everyone and usually have this heart-rending story to tell. A friend of mine lost over €10 000 in one of these scams


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Steredenn Offret  Identity Verified
Local time: 02:55
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Me too ! Feb 25, 2005

Dear Geneviève,
I was also contacted by that so-called Prince, but for interpreting into French. I had serious doubts about his story and therefore I turned him down. I am glad you did not buy it "completely" either. Just be careful, scams come everyday !
Sted


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Sormane Fitzgerald Gomes  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 20:55
Member (2004)
Portuguese to English
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Same here. Feb 25, 2005

Hello,
I am Bishop XXXXXXX. Am an English speaking cleargy from Ghana.I will be coming over to Philadelphia PA on holidays from 10th of March. to the 20th of March 2005 for a 10 days vacation with my Portuguese - European wife,daughter and son of the ages of 3 and 5 respectively.My wife Rev. XXXXXXX only speaks Portuguese - European and my native language,because her mum happens to come from Ghana. We will require the services of a Portuguese - European translator for 5 hours daily X 10 days because i will not always be with them on most occations due to other church functions which i most attend.Please acknowledge if you can offer this service and give me a price quote.We will like to pay in advance of our visit so she can be assured of an interpreter during her shopping and sightseeing because this is her first visit to US .
An early reply will be appreciated.

Remain Blessed,

His Lordship,
Bishop XXXXXXXX
Tel: +XXXXXXXXXX


Unbelievable!

Sormane

[Edited at 2005-02-25 22:58]


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Luisa Ramos, CT  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 20:55
Member (2004)
English to Spanish
If it sounds too good to be true Feb 26, 2005

We should always apply this golden rule: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I am glad you had exactly that feeling.

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Conrado Portugal
Germany
Local time: 02:55
German to Spanish
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It happened to me Feb 26, 2005

Genevieve Tournebize-Iliev wrote:

I was contacted by a person who claim he was a prince in Ghana and was needing an interpreter in Spanish because he was coming to my city and his wife was not an English speaker. We communicated several times about the timing and the price for the interpretation (10 days, 5 hrs a day). He said that I would be paid ahead of time. As the emails went on he told me that he someone in the US would send me a check because he had some business in the US. I did not see any problem with that. Close to the date he was coming he told me that the check would be for more than my fees and that I should send the rest of the money by Western Union to his agent in Ghana. I waited for the check because I did not know for sure what to expect from this although I was suspicious. The check came a Friday and the person and his family were supposed to arrive the following Tuesday. The check was for $4800 and I was told to send the remaining part of the check right away with the information needed to retreive it. My bank did not want to clear the check (this was a bank check not an individual check) but my husband bank did. I was going to send the remainder of the money but I had some doubts. I checked over the net if there was an agency in Ghana with the name I was given or a prince with the name he had given me. I could not really find anything consistant. I called Western Union to ask them what they thought about this and they told me that most likely it was a fake check because apparently there is a lot of fraud similar to this coming from Africa and Spain. I kept the check deposited in my bank until naturally 10 days later it was proven that it was fake. You would think that banks can check checks right away especially when they are written by another bank as a cashier's check. Apparently not, if we had sent the money there is nothing we could have done to retreive it and the bank would have asked us to pay it back even though we were victim of a fraud. Beware international fraud is high and they are attacking everyone that is interested to earn a living decently.

Genevieve

[Subject edited by staff or moderator 2005-02-25 16:17]


This week, I received this:


Gooday,
My Name is XXXX.My fiancee Mary and i will
be getting married at XXXXX on MAY XXXXX.Mary my fiancee is from
Spain and speaks Spanish
and she does not speak English and i would require the
service of a professional interpreter like you to help
interprete whatever she says on the wedding day to make
things convenient for her,myself and the officiating
ministers along with the invited guests.I would want you
to get back to me with your pricing package for this task
and if you are out of Leingarten,state what it will costs
to make
the trip to the venue of the event on the specified date
along with your charges for the required service.I will be
making the payment with a cashiers check.
At this moment,Mary and i just arrived
Amsterdam,Holland for a 8 weeks Pre-Wedding honeymoon and
will be back soon and when we get back to the states,i
will give you a call to finalise every other details of
the wedding.
Do send me your pricing details along with your Full
names,Address,Telephone number where a cashiers check will
be made out to as soon as possible.Hotel Accomodation will
also be provided for as well if you are out of Leingarten.
I look forward to reading from you soon.
XXXXX.



Since the story is very strange, plus they required me to go to the other end of Germany, I kindly rejected the assignment

What did you do, Genevieve? Did you inform the authorities? Is there any way to catch these crooks?

Conrado


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Pamela Brizzola  Identity Verified
Italy
Local time: 02:55
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See what they say in Nigeria Feb 26, 2005

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