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lifeandlove  Identity Verified
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Feb 23, 2016

Dear colleagues,

I need your help. What is acceptable AVERAGE number of translated pages (cards) DAILY from/to English?

Thank you


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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Acceptable to whom? Feb 23, 2016

lifeandlove wrote:
I need your help. What is acceptable AVERAGE number of translated pages (cards) DAILY from/to English?


If you tell us why do you ask this question (e.g. acceptable to whom), then we may be able to give you a sensible answer.


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Oliver Walter  Identity Verified
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What is a page? Feb 23, 2016

Is a page 200 words, 300, 600? If I want to think about how much I have translated, I think in numbers of words, not pages. (The validity of that could conceivably be different for non-alphabetic writing like non-romanised Chinese.)

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lifeandlove  Identity Verified
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Samuel Murray wrote:

lifeandlove wrote:
I need your help. What is acceptable AVERAGE number of translated pages (cards) DAILY from/to English?


If you tell us why do you ask this question (e.g. acceptable to whom), then we may be able to give you a sensible answer.


I work in a state-owned company and I would like to inform my boss about it, because he asks me to translate 15 pages daily. And I say it's too much for one working day (07.30 to 16.00 h).


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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300 to 500 words per hour Feb 23, 2016

lifeandlove wrote:
I work in a state-owned company and I would like to inform my boss about it, because he asks me to translate 15 pages daily.


If the text does not involve a lot of looking up of terms, then it would be reasonable of your boss to expect you to translate 300 words per hour (or up to 500 words per hour, if the text is easy and you are a fast typist). Some translators boast 800-1000 words per hour, but that is only possible if the text is highly repetitive and if the translator uses specialised translation software.


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Ed Ashley  Identity Verified
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How many words in a page? Feb 23, 2016

lifeandlove wrote:

I work in a state-owned company and I would like to inform my boss about it, because he asks me to translate 15 pages daily. And I say it's too much for one working day (07.30 to 16.00 h).


If a page is defined as follows, then we're talking 7,500 words:

"For a page with 1 inch margins, 12 point Times New Roman font, and minimal spacing elements, a good rule of thumb is 500 words for a single spaced page" - http://howardcc.libanswers.com/faq/69833

At the first company I worked for, a page was roughly 300 words, but even that would bring you to 4,500 words. I have translated this many words in a day, but I didn't finish at 5pm and I didn't feel human at the end of it.

Anyway, I find the notion of X pages per day arbitrary, as 2,000 words of highly technical German is easily as time-consuming (and tiring) as 4,500 words of more digestible source text.

We still need to know what your definition of a page is, though.


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lifeandlove  Identity Verified
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Ed Ashley wrote:

lifeandlove wrote:

I work in a state-owned company and I would like to inform my boss about it, because he asks me to translate 15 pages daily. And I say it's too much for one working day (07.30 to 16.00 h).


If a page is defined as follows, then we're talking 7,500 words:

"For a page with 1 inch margins, 12 point Times New Roman font, and minimal spacing elements, a good rule of thumb is 500 words for a single spaced page" - http://howardcc.libanswers.com/faq/69833

At the first company I worked for, a page was roughly 300 words, but even that would bring you to 4,500 words. I have translated this many words in a day, but I didn't finish at 5pm and I didn't feel human at the end of it.

Anyway, I find the notion of X pages per day arbitrary, as 2,000 words of highly technical German is easily as time-consuming (and tiring) as 4,500 words of more digestible source text.

We still need to know what your definition of a page is, though.


I type in Aries 11 and my page is like A4 format paper with minimum spacing. Ofcourse it depends on the text type, if it has photos and graphs, but I'm speaking here on average. E.g. last week I translated Instructions Manual for a device and now I translate service usage conditions.

15 pages per day is way tooo much for me cos it's ongoing translation, my max is 6 pages of quality translation without any software tool cos we do not use it here. I'm afraid my boss isn't well informed so he's trying to force us to do more. But I would like to prove him he's wrong to allow us to work normally without stress and pressure.


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lifeandlove wrote:

I type in Aries 11 and my page is like A4 format paper with minimum spacing. Ofcourse it depends on the text type, if it has photos and graphs, but I'm speaking here on average. E.g. last week I translated Instructions Manual for a device and now I translate service usage conditions.



do you expect us to type up a page or two of random text using these guidelines to work out the number of words?

if you're using Word, the software can tell you the number of words

I could tell you that I can do about 12,000 words a week for example, but I have no idea of the number of pages and if you have graphs and photos of course the number of pages is of no significance whatsoever.


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Álvaro Espantaleón  Identity Verified
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I'm with Samuel Feb 23, 2016

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Inga Petkelyte  Identity Verified
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Again Feb 23, 2016

Oliver Walter wrote:

Is a page 200 words, 300, 600? If I want to think about how much I have translated, I think in numbers of words, not pages. (The validity of that could conceivably be different for non-alphabetic writing like non-romanised Chinese.)


An average EU-standard page conatins 250 to 300 words, if counting is in words.
10 pages per day is already a tough output since the translation need to be revised and edited.


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Jean-Pierre Artigau
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See other discussion Feb 23, 2016

Hello

Two years ago somebody at proz.com asked how many words can you translate in a day. Here is the link to the discussion that followed. http://www.proz.com/forum/translation_theory_and_practice/281416-how_many_words_can_you_translate_in_8_hours-page4.html
In summary most people report translating about 2,000 words per day, but some languages are more concise than others (less words, or maybe a larger number of composite words counting for one word each, especially English and the Northern European languages).

Jean-Pierre


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lifeandlove  Identity Verified
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Inga Petkelyte wrote:

Oliver Walter wrote:

Is a page 200 words, 300, 600? If I want to think about how much I have translated, I think in numbers of words, not pages. (The validity of that could conceivably be different for non-alphabetic writing like non-romanised Chinese.)


An average EU-standard page conatins 250 to 300 words, if counting is in words.
10 pages per day is already a tough output since the translation need to be revised and edited.


Thank you, Where can I find that EU standard? I would like to show it to my boss.
I also learned that the standard in the Hague is 5 pages of translation daily. Is it true?


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Inga Petkelyte  Identity Verified
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Oh, typos, sorry Feb 23, 2016

Sorry for the typo
Once I needed to get this standard, I asked directly the EU.
This standard is fixed somewhere, I will look for it later today.
And yes, a "normal" daily output is considered to be 5 pages but I am not sure whether it is fixed anywhere. However, most translation agencies in their websites indicate this number as the standard number of pages to be translated per day per order.


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Inga Petkelyte  Identity Verified
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A standard page for EC purposes is defined as 1500 characters not including spaces Feb 23, 2016

defined as 1500 characters not including spaces:
http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/translation/faq/index_en.htm


Hope it helps.Now, for the daily number of pages, you can ask several translation agencies in yoir country to provide you a letter with what is deemede as a normal daily output. Some agencies will ignore your equest, some will refuse and some will help.


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lifeandlove  Identity Verified
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Inga Petkelyte wrote:

defined as 1500 characters not including spaces:
http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/translation/faq/index_en.htm


Hope it helps.Now, for the daily number of pages, you can ask several translation agencies in yoir country to provide you a letter with what is deemede as a normal daily output. Some agencies will ignore your equest, some will refuse and some will help.


Thank you so much Inga this is so important and helpful for me

I will wait for you to send me that standard cos I like to speak with arguments.
I'm not sure about reaction of translation agencies here (we have only 3-4 tr.agencies in Sarajevo) but I will certainly ask them to do that for me.

Thank you again.
Have a nice evening


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