Any CAT tool with customisable analysis percentage categories?
Thread poster: Samuel Murray

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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Aug 14, 2012

G'day everyone

Four CAT tools on my computer count fuzzy matches in the following categories:

WFC: 95%, 85%, 50%
OmegaT: 95%, 85%, 75%, 50%
WFP: 95%, 85%, 75%, 50%
Trados 2007: 95%, 85%, 75%, 50%
Trados 2009: 95%, 85%, 75%, 50%

These categories aren't customisable in these tools. Do you know of a CAT tool or a word counting tool that offers customisable fuzzy percentage categories? I would like to be able to count fuzzy matches of 90%.

I have found that fuzzy matches of less than 90% similarity don't really save me time when translating, so it makes no sense for me to allow discounts for matches below 90%. The only time that fuzzy matches of a lower percentage actually saves me time is for very long sentences with multiple phrases in them.

If I can't find a word counter (that can compare with a TM) that allows me to set "90%" as a match category, I'm going to have to tell clients to use 85%, which I would prefer not to.

I previously did not really bother with this little detail, but that was because whatever I lost on TM matches I gained with internal matches, since internal matches were never counted by clients. Nowadays internal matches are also counted, so I no longer gain on that front what I lost on the other front, and it makes sense to become more particular about which fuzzy match percentages are taken into account for weighted word counts.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Samuel


 

Hermann Bruns  Identity Verified
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Try MetaTexis for Word Aug 14, 2012

Hello Samual,

yes, there is a CAT tool that allows you to define the percentage breakdown ranges: MetaTexis for Word.

You can download a trial version via this link: http://www.metatexis.com/download.php

Run an analysis or a document statistics. In the Options tab of the Statistics results you can define the breakdown ranges according to your needs.

Best regards
Hermann


 

Emma Goldsmith  Identity Verified
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Studio 2009/2011 are customisable Aug 14, 2012

Samuel Murray wrote:

Trados 2009: 95%, 85%, 75%, 50%



Those percentages come by default. They are customisable by going to Tools>options>language pairs>batch processing>fuzzy bands.
Or, on at a case-by-case level, you can adjust these values when you're preparing a project, or simply running a separate batch task.

HTH,
Emma


 

esperantisto  Identity Verified
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Hack it! Aug 14, 2012

Samuel Murray wrote:

OmegaT: 95%, 85%, 75%, 50%


These categories aren't customisable in these tools.


I bet, you can hack OmegaT’s code to re-define the similarity thresholds for analysis.


 

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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Trados 2007 Aug 14, 2012

Emma Goldsmith wrote:
Samuel Murray wrote:
Trados 2009: 95%, 85%, 75%, 50%

They are customisable by going to Tools, Options, Language pairs, Batch processing, Fuzzy bands.


I can't find a similar thing for Trados 2007, but I just spotted something in Trados 2007 that might be useful: in the Analysis dialog, after having done an analysis, one can export a TM containing only segments with a match lower than X. So I think I could set that to "90%" and export it, and then do a word count on the TM, which would be the word count of the 0-89% matches. Can anyone confirm this, please?


 

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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@Esperantist Aug 14, 2012

esperantisto wrote:
Samuel Murray wrote:
OmegaT: 95%, 85%, 75%, 50%
These categories aren't customisable in these tools.

I bet you can hack OmegaT’s code to re-define the similarity thresholds for analysis.


Preliminary investigation shows that the most likely file to be edited would be:
org/omegat/core/statistics/CalcMatchStatistics.class
...but I'm no good at compiling software.


 

esperantisto  Identity Verified
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Big deal! Aug 14, 2012

Samuel Murray wrote:
...but I'm no good at compiling software.


Neither am I. However, it’s piece of cake actually: get and install NetBeans (other IDEs such as Eclipse would be fine as well, I guess, but I have no experience), load the source project, hit Shift+F11 to clean up and compile the project (simple compile produced some errors in my experience). Et voila!


 

Hans Lenting  Identity Verified
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German to Dutch
Transit can ... Aug 15, 2012

Do you know of a CAT tool or a word counting tool that offers customisable fuzzy percentage categories?


Transit can do that:

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Philippe Etienne  Identity Verified
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another counter-strike angle Aug 17, 2012

Samuel Murray wrote:
...I previously did not really bother with this little detail, but that was because whatever I lost on TM matches I gained with internal matches, since internal matches were never counted by clients. Nowadays internal matches are also counted, so I no longer gain on that front what I lost on the other front, and it makes sense to become more particular about which fuzzy match percentages are

Technology and CAT tool makers alone cut translators' income.

On the kind of texts I do, counting internal matches (or ticking Homogeneity in MemoQ) consistently decreases the wordcount (therefore my income) by 10-30% compared to Trados 2007.

Since internal match-counting has become widespread in most tools, I raised my base rate and shortened my fuzzy match bracket from 99-75 to 99-85, while increasing its rate from 2/3 of my full rate to 3/4. Overall it seems to offset the loss generated by these internal matches.

However, with agencies having a non-negociable discount scheme, I just state a higher rate.

I confirm that Trados 2009 allows you to set custom fuzzy brackets. Trados 2007 doesn't have this feature.

Philippe


 


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