Do you fill in all segments?
Thread poster: Heinrich Pesch

Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
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May 27, 2015

I use CAT since 2002 and always left segments untranslated that would be identical in the target (numbers, names of persons, titles of books etc.). Today a PM insisted on filling these too, otherwise the translation would be incomplete.

 

Mikhail Kropotov  Identity Verified
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No target file with empty segments May 27, 2015

In many CATs you just can't leave empty segments in the target, else no deliverable can be produced.

I hope you get paid for processing all segments though.


 

Erik Freitag  Identity Verified
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Sure May 27, 2015

Of course I do, and I agree 100% with your PM. I'm wondering why none of your clients has complained about that before.

How should your client know that you didn't just forget a particular segment?

If a segment is identical in the target text, I copy it. If the translation of a segment is "blank space" in the target language (which does happen, at least in my language combination), I leave the target segment blank and set the segment status to "translated".

I'm really wondering why you ask, isn't this just common sense?

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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
Finland
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It really doesn't matter May 27, 2015

Erik Freitag wrote:

Of course I do, and I agree 100% with your PM. I'm wondering why none of your clients has complained about that before.

How should your client know that you didn't just forget a particular segment?

If a segment is identical in the target text, I copy it. If the translation of a segment is "blank space" in the target language (which does happen, at least in my language combination), I leave the target segment blank and set the segment status to "translated".

I'm really wondering why you ask, isn't this just common sense?

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The bilingual file is only an intermediate. In the final translation all segments will be there, and I have used lots of different software, like SDL Studio, WFP, Transit. Copying numbers will fill the TM with useless stuff: "Oh, my TM has one hundred thousand segments, ninety thousand of them are numbers".

When you fill in those pseudo-translated segments the software will count them as translated and you will invoice for work you did not do. With WFC I usually invoice according to the report after clean-up, which shows the number of translated words and characters.

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Mikhail Kropotov  Identity Verified
Russian Federation
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Numbers may need to be localized May 27, 2015

For example, in Russian we would write
1,234,567.89
as
1 234 567,89


 

Erik Freitag  Identity Verified
Germany
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Numbers May 27, 2015

Ok, to a certain extent, I can see where you're coming from, but my approach is different.

Heinrich Pesch wrote:

The bilingual file is only an intermediate. In the final translation all segments will be there, and I have used lots of different software, like SDL Studio, WFP, Transit. Copying numbers will fill the TM with useless stuff: "Oh, my TM has one hundred thousand segments, ninety thousand of them are numbers".


I can only speak of SDL Studio here, but as far as I know, numbers-only segments don't go into the TM (nor should they).

Heinrich Pesch wrote:
When you fill in those pseudo-translated segments the software will count them as translated and you will invoice for work you did not do.



Of course I'm doing work on segments that are identical in the target language. I need to have a look at them and decide. I'm still translating, only that the translation happens to be identical to the source.

My word rate reflects that in the large scale there will always be some segments that I don't need to change.


 


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