CAT tools without Microsofy Word
Thread poster: Joshua Carmody
Joshua Carmody  Identity Verified
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Sep 29, 2005

I'm thinking of getting some CAT software, and I noticed that a lot of the packages people are using (Wordfast, for example), require that you have Microsoft Word and use the program as an add-on. Personally, I use Sun Microsystem's OpenOffice to open Word and Excel files, and would rather not buy Microsoft Office if I can avoid it. I was wondering, which of the CAT programs stand on their own? Does Trados require Word? How about the other software packages? Is there any other software I'd need to have? Any insights anyone can provide would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Rodolfo Raya  Identity Verified
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Heartsome Translation Suite Sep 29, 2005

I was wondering, which of the CAT programs stand on their own?


Hi,

Heartsome Translation Suite does not require MS Word. Take a look at http://www.heartsome.net

Rodolfo


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gianfranco  Identity Verified
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DejaVu and SDLX Sep 30, 2005

Joshua Carmody wrote:
...I was wondering, which of the CAT programs stand on their own? Does Trados require Word? How about the other software packages?
...


Dear Joshua,

DejaVu and SDLX have an internal editor and do not require MS Word.

Gianfranco


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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
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Trados 7 can handle Word-files in TagEditor Sep 30, 2005

But I haven't tried it yet, only installed the new version only yesterday. For OpenOffice there is a CAT tool, but it is not compatible to other CATs.
Regards
Heinrich


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Sonja Tomaskovic  Identity Verified
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.. Sep 30, 2005

I am not sure about SDLX and DejaVu, but I know that Trados still requires Word, even if it can handle Word files in TagEditor. It needs the software in the background to extract the text.

Sonja

P.S. OmegaT is an open-source software that works with OpenOffice files. There is currently a beta release that handles sentence-segmentation and other features. Heinrich mentions it is not compatible with other CATs, which is IMHO not completely true. It is slowly becoming better.


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Hynek Palatin  Identity Verified
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SDLX Sep 30, 2005

Sonja Tomaskovic wrote:

I am not sure about SDLX and DejaVu, but I know that Trados still requires Word, even if it can handle Word files in TagEditor. It needs the software in the background to extract the text.


I think SDLX does the same (but I'm also not 100% sure).


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Robert Tucker
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Transolution Sep 30, 2005

This will also work with OOo documents. One needs to extract the content.xml from the OOo file and then re-archive the translated output, but it is a good stable CAT tool once you've got it going.


It can produce a TMX 1.4. Apart from a need to convert the encoding from UTF-8 to UTF-16, if Trados cannot read it, I think it may well be for Trados to specify the particular format of TMX 1.4 Trados needs.

(The same applies to an OmegaT produced TMX 1.1 converted to TMX 1.4)


http://transolution.python-hosting.com/


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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No-one mentioned OmegaT yet? Sep 30, 2005

Joshua Carmody wrote:
Personally, I use Sun Microsystem's OpenOffice to open Word and Excel files...


OpenOffice.org is not a Sun Microsystems product, AFAIK.

...and would rather not buy Microsoft Office if I can avoid it. I was wondering, which of the CAT programs stand on their own?


OmegaT (requires Java, but handles OpenOffice formats natively).

Does Trados require Word?


I'm under the impression that you can translate using Trados even though you don't have MS Word, but only if the MS Word file had been preprepared in some what so that it is in another format which can be read by Trados, so I'm not sure.


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Sonja Tomaskovic  Identity Verified
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No one mentioned OmegaT yet? Sep 30, 2005

Yes, Samuel, I did.

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Joshua Carmody  Identity Verified
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Thanks everyone. Sep 30, 2005

Thanks for your help everyone. Given that the overall situation seems to be that most people are pretty sure that most of the tools require MS Word, I suppose I might as well get a copy after all. I was intending to get Trados, and I figured "why buy a copy of MS word if the functionality's already built in?". But, that's ok. Word isn't *that* expensive. Thanks again.

Samuel Murray wrote:

OpenOffice.org is not a Sun Microsystems product, AFAIK.


OpenOffice.org is, in fact, a Sun Microsystems product. Sun's logo and copyright notice are on the bottom of every page on the website, as well as on the program's splash screen when you open it.


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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OOo and Sun Oct 1, 2005

Joshua Carmody wrote:
Samuel Murray wrote:
OpenOffice.org is not a Sun Microsystems product, AFAIK.

OpenOffice.org is, in fact, a Sun Microsystems product. Sun's logo and copyright notice are on the bottom of every page on the website, as well as on the program's splash screen when you open it.


I guess it's a question of semantics, then.

From the Sun web site:
http://www.sun.com/software/star/openoffice/index.xml
"OpenOffice.org is an open-source project, home of the OpenOffice.org software, the most widely distributed open-source multi-platform productivity suite. The OpenOffice.org community was founded by Sun Microsystems in 2000. An active community, of which Sun is a key member, enhances and supports the OpenOffice.org office suite."

From the OOo web site:
http://about.openoffice.org/index.html
"Sun continues to sponsor development on OpenOffice.org and is the primary contributor of code to OpenOffice.org. ... OpenOffice.org is governed by an elected body, the Community Council."


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