Help! What is the best CAT tools for embedded text (in diagrams, OLE) in Word

Claudia Alvis wrote:

First of all, I have to say that I am fairly impressed with Transit, I'd been looking for an alternative to Trados and I think Transit might be it. I'm posting what I did, even though with Transit, it doesn't seems so complicated anymore, it might help somebody else because Transit was not the end of the process.

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Antoní­n Otáhal wrote:

Now that you mention it, I do recall that the embedded objects require kind of a "refresh" step after they are exported from Transit.

Antonin

[Edited at 2007-12-09 00:05]

Hans Lenting wrote:



I think this refreshing can be done for all updated embedded objects fairly easily by macro!

Hans

Claudia Alvis wrote:

Thanks everyone for your suggestions and offers, you're very generous especially you-know-who.

I also want to thank Antoní­n and Gillian for leading me in the right direction. Transit XV does recognize and work with embedded objects and 'objects embedded into objects embedded', which is not a small task. A generous colleague has let me use his copy of Transit (I know, I know), and even he's on vacations we've spent all morning in a trial-and-error session and I think we finally have it figured out.

First of all, I have to say that I am fairly impressed with Transit, I'd been looking for an alternative to Trados and I think Transit might be it. I'm posting what I did, even though with Transit, it doesn't seems so complicated anymore, it might help somebody else because Transit was not the end of the process.

• I prepared the project with Transit. In File Type I chose MS-Word then I went to Options and checked 'Process objects' from the 'Embedded Objects' group box.
  
• I added a couple of sample files I had previously prepared; one with a 'diagram within a word object within word' and the other with a 'table as an excel object within a word object within word'.
  
• Transit managed to "read" the text from the embedded objects, I pseudo-translated some of them then I exported the files.
  
• But when I opened the exported files, the text in the objects hadn't changed. I mean the normal text was translated but the text inside the tables and diagrams were still in the original language.
  
• It turned out that I had to manually 'Convert' them. For instance, with the diagram with text-boxes embedded as a Word Object, I had to right-click on the code {EMBED Word Document.8\s} and select Document Object > Convert > Convert to > Microsoft Office Word Document. With the diagram as an Excel Object embedded in a Word Object embedded in the document, I had to do one extra thing. I right-clicked on the table, then selected Document Object>Open. Once I got into the Word Object, I right-clicked on the table then selected Worksheet Object> Convert > Convert to > Microsoft Office Excel Worksheet.
  
• So 'Convert' was the way to update the objects, just like I thought I had to do manually but Transit save me a lot of time.
  

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Brandis, Heinrich, Peter, the reason I didn't want to resort to converting the file to pdf is that I didn't want to modify the code, let alone replace it with just the text. My file has plenty of bookmarks, codes, links, so I was afraid if I modify something, I will ruin the file. And those codes are a nightmare to fix.

My concern now is how to charge for doing this, as I don't really know how long this whole process would take me and I'm basically learning how to do this. I had never worked on Word document that was so heavily-coded as much as this one.

Thanks

Claudia

Claudia Alvis wrote:

Unfortunately, that doesn't work.

The objects, or their "definition" change with the conversion and the result is a complete mess. I gave up.