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《走路上学》剧照说明文字:
(中文)对于怒江边那些需要溜索过江的孩子来说,能够走路上学,竟然是一种莫大的幸福......

(英文)For those children on the riverside who have to Liusuo across the Nujiang river,
WALKING TO SCHOOL is actually a kind of greatest happiness.

http://sztqb.sznews.com/html/2009-05/21/content_632026.htm
由深圳民营企业独立投资摄制的电影《走路上学》近日入围上海国际电影节亚洲新人奖。这部儿童题材的影片将与另一部中国影片《扎赉诺尔》以及日本片《恋极星》、韩国影片《超度绯闻》等角逐亚洲新人奖中的最佳影片奖、最佳导演奖、评委会特别奖。

《走路上学》片名平平无奇,它其实要表达的,是故事主人公:住在云南怒江边的傈僳族孩子瓦娃的心愿。因为山路太远,瓦娃的姐姐每天只能溜索过江去上学。瓦娃的妈妈害怕危险,不允许瓦娃单独溜索。渴望上学的瓦娃只能背着妈妈偷偷溜到学校去,遇到了城里来的支教老师。老师送了瓦娃一双鞋。姐姐带着鞋子溜索回家的途中,意外发生了……一年后,怒江上终于建起了一座桥,瓦娃和伙伴们可以走路去上学了。


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rope gliding May 22, 2009

... might be one way to say this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAi8AcAylKk


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cable gliding May 22, 2009

This guy calls it cable gliding. Or perhaps it could also be called tightrope gliding?

I really don't see any point of making up a new English word for this Chinese term.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7kho_cable-gliding-fred_extreme



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glide along steel cable across the river May 22, 2009

试译:
溜索过江 glide along steel cable across the river

参考
Costa Rica - Sarapiqui Selva Verde Lodge - [ 翻译此页 ]Suit up in safety equipment before hooking on to a steel cable to glide across the river. A trained guide on each end of the zip line will help you reach ...
www.travelingcostarica.com/hotel/sarapiqui/selva_verde/selva_verde_us.htm - 34k -


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Like a cable car May 22, 2009

nigerose wrote:

试译:
溜索过江 glide along steel cable across the river

参考
Costa Rica - Sarapiqui Selva Verde Lodge - [ 翻译此页 ]Suit up in safety equipment before hooking on to a steel cable to glide across the river. A trained guide on each end of the zip line will help you reach ...
www.travelingcostarica.com/hotel/sarapiqui/selva_verde/selva_verde_us.htm - 34k -



Yes, something like that ...

to glide along a cable that suspends across the river

to glide across the river by hanging from a cable that stretches from one side to the other

...

It's like a "cable car" without the "car".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l26SK9mmE0



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‘鹞子翻身'(?); summer-camp May 22, 2009

[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5szR6gQJnWg&feature=channel
flying fox !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alps-zRN0YY&feature=channel
french horn section WGS ]

请问‘鹞子翻身' = 'sparrow hawk turns over', or ?

[When you come down on the north of the main peak, after you have gone something over two li , then you have come to the peaceful North Peak. On the top of the peak there is a temple, and the scenery is beautiful.] However, between the two peaks there is a ravine so deep you cannot see the bottom. [ In order to cross the ravine, people drove iron stakes into the two cliff walls, pulled several lengths of iron chain over them, and laid planks over it to make a chain bridge. When visitors came and went, the chain bridge floated up and down, and under the bridge in the deep ravine, the fog was thick, and so it got the name the "Immortals' Bridge". ] Later on, people feared it was not safe and cut out stone hollows in the cliffs, so that if you wanted to cross to the North Peak, your hands would grasp the chain, your feet would tread in the hollows, and you would swing across. Because of this it was also called "Sparrow hawk turns over". All Kongtong visitors, whoever they are, come to visit this scene, or to experience for themselves a taste of "Sparrow hawk turns over". Translated from 'Pingliang's Kongtong Mountain' in Duan, Qi & Li eds., Gansu Tourist Guide (1982), China Tourism Publishing House, Beijing

Xing Long Mountain, with its immense forests of pines soughing in the wind, its lovely scenery, its birdsong and scent of flowers, and its pleasant weather, is a renowned beauty spot in Gansu which has always been a tourist centre. [ Gansu's Number One Workers' Sanatorium was once set up here, and each year a large contingent of model workers and advanced producers would come to escape the summer heat and recuperate. Every summer season, Lanzhou, Qinghai and Xi'an tourists come here in an endless stream for sightseeing,] and every year in the summer vacation, Lanzhou City's tertiary, middle and elementary schools run summer camps here. (Translated from 'Lanzhou City: Xinglong Mountain' in Duan, Qi & Li eds., Gansu Tourist Guide, (1982), China Tourism Publishing House, Beijing)

[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip-line
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip-line#Flying_fox
The term "flying fox" is most commonly used in reference to a small-scale zip line typically used as an item of children's play equipment, except in Australian English and New Zealand English ... ]

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zip line May 22, 2009

lai an wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip-line
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip-line#Flying_fox
The term "flying fox" is most commonly used in reference to a small-scale zip line typically used as an item of children's play equipment, except in Australian English and New Zealand English ...




A zip-line (also known as a flying fox, zip wire, aerial runway, aerial ropeslide, death slide or tyrolean crossing) consists of a pulley suspended on a cable mounted on an incline. It is designed to enable a user propelled by gravity to traverse from the top to the bottom of the inclined cable, usually made of stainless steel, by holding on or attaching to the freely moving pulley. Zip-lines come in many forms, most often used as a means of entertainment. They may be short and low, intended for child's play and found on some playgrounds. Longer and higher rides are often used as a means of accessing remote areas, such as a rainforest canopy. Zip-line tours are becoming popular vacation activities, found at outdoor adventure camps or upscale resorts, where they are usually one element on a larger challenge or ropes course.




Thanks, Lesley. Sounds wonderful ...

to zip line across the river
to aerial ropeslide across the river
to cross the river by a flying fox
...


http://www.hometravelagency.com/dictionary/zip-line.html



Define zip line

zip line. An elevated and inclined wire from which a pulley and a one-person seating apparatus are suspended allowing the person to move between two points by the action of gravity. Used in some places, such as rain forests, as a tourist attraction. Participating in this type of activity is called "zip lining." Also called "Tyrolean crossing." When the angle is steep, sometimes called a "death slide."




I see little justification for coined words or phrases using Chinese phonetics such as "liusuo", "zheteng", etc. These are not in any way describing things unique to the Chinese culture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r0pROzHY5M



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"Liusuo" May 22, 2009

I wonder if Ms. Joan Pinkham, the author of "The translator's Guide to Chinglish", would like to make some generalizations on this gem of a translation

http://china-tourism-landscape.blogspot.com/2008_11_18_archive.html



Nu Liusuo - Chinese tourism scenic spots

Nu River canyon wall hanging cliffs, deep sink lofty, such as the surging river valleys of wild horses in the Pentium. According to legend, a pair of cross-strait were living in the Nujiang Lisu lovers, can not meet the distress, inspired by the rainbow, pull up the Nu River on the first Liusuo. Since then, such a convenient means of transportation will be on both sides of the Are widely used. Liusuo on the Nu River, there are two - slip-and steep slide. The two slip-Liusuo as high, the greater Jiang Ping, and from all over, but after a river Liudao arms exert oneself, to climb the other side. Steep slide a certain inclination, a high and a low natural slide on the other side, very light. A steep slide Two are, the tilt in the opposite direction, back and forth all effort. For security, in addition to the construction slipped Liusuo itself, there will be a piece of hardwood or bamboo slip into the plate and a bolt of hemp rope at the waist. Liu Suo is a need to have the courage, when you put a life line in the not too rough on the rope, when you look across a Dizzy all the canyon, when you hear that Liusuo under the deafening roar of the river's voice, would not mind a bit Qieyi give birth. When you see those men, women and children in the River to easily slip on the surface to fly, especially those with children Mother, carrying a goat finishing together, "from heaven", not for their Impressed by the gas. Goto nothing to do Liusuo easy to wear and tear, so for a period of time (two to three months is short, no longer than one year) have a replacement. In other words slip, the two sides each a big effort, first tied one end of the Diaoyu Xian one of the two sides throwing stones, stones in the river two to be together, crochet, then slowly pull-off Shore. Then the fish line into the thick hemp rope, and then when Liusuo fixed at one end of a slip of the shore a tree or a pile, then the other side of the line in the rough hemp rope pull over to the other side, fixed on the other side of the tree Or slip on the pile, paragraph by paragraph with a wooden stick and twist tight-for-slip is complete. Today, the Heng Jia Nu River Bridge on more and more Liusuo but not from the stage of history. Nothing has been turned into a cable wire, slipped boards have been replaced by a pulley, Liusuo more and more security. Some local people have become Liusuo exercise and entertainment. Some families with small slip-off, Fun for all. Visitors from afar can feel the air, this The breathtaking slide.



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machine translation May 22, 2009

这段不像是人工做的。

wherestip wrote:



Nu Liusuo - Chinese tourism scenic spots

Nu River canyon wall hanging cliffs, deep sink lofty, such as the surging river valleys of wild horses in the Pentium. According to legend, a pair of cross-strait were living in the Nujiang Lisu lovers, can not meet the distress, inspired by the rainbow, pull up the Nu River on the first Liusuo. Since then, such a convenient means of transportation will be on both sides of the Are widely used. Liusuo on the Nu River, there are two - slip-and steep slide. The two slip-Liusuo as high, the greater Jiang Ping, and from all over, but after a river Liudao arms exert oneself, to climb the other side. Steep slide a certain inclination, a high and a low natural slide on the other side, very light. A steep slide Two are, the tilt in the opposite direction, back and forth all effort. For security, in addition to the construction slipped Liusuo itself, there will be a piece of hardwood or bamboo slip into the plate and a bolt of hemp rope at the waist. Liu Suo is a need to have the courage, when you put a life line in the not too rough on the rope, when you look across a Dizzy all the canyon, when you hear that Liusuo under the deafening roar of the river's voice, would not mind a bit Qieyi give birth. When you see those men, women and children in the River to easily slip on the surface to fly, especially those with children Mother, carrying a goat finishing together, "from heaven", not for their Impressed by the gas. Goto nothing to do Liusuo easy to wear and tear, so for a period of time (two to three months is short, no longer than one year) have a replacement. In other words slip, the two sides each a big effort, first tied one end of the Diaoyu Xian one of the two sides throwing stones, stones in the river two to be together, crochet, then slowly pull-off Shore. Then the fish line into the thick hemp rope, and then when Liusuo fixed at one end of a slip of the shore a tree or a pile, then the other side of the line in the rough hemp rope pull over to the other side, fixed on the other side of the tree Or slip on the pile, paragraph by paragraph with a wooden stick and twist tight-for-slip is complete. Today, the Heng Jia Nu River Bridge on more and more Liusuo but not from the stage of history. Nothing has been turned into a cable wire, slipped boards have been replaced by a pulley, Liusuo more and more security. Some local people have become Liusuo exercise and entertainment. Some families with small slip-off, Fun for all. Visitors from afar can feel the air, this The breathtaking slide.





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machine translation May 22, 2009

Zhoudan wrote:

这段不像是人工做的。



Hmm, I sure hope not. But sometimes you really can't tell. And don't they even do a once-over even if it was translated by software?

I did a search on that book "The translator's Guide to Chinglish". Perhaps many of you already have the book. Some of the reviews and discussions that came up seemed pretty interesting. Later I might paste some of the links to the thread Sherwin started about "中式英语".



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华山 '鹞子翻身' May 22, 2009

lai an wrote:

请问‘鹞子翻身' = 'sparrow hawk turns over', or ?



Lesley,

How about a "sparrow hawk spiral", or a "falcon's spiral, or spin"?



http://www.tourismus.li/en/navpage.cfm?category=FamilyLI&subcat=FamilyExcursionsLI&id=44739

Every day at 3 p.m. (except Mondays) in Malbun, a professional falconer and his birds of prey put on a unique flight show. The majestic raptors and the swift falcons spiral upward into the sky before plunging just above the visitors' heads back onto the hand of the falconer. With speeds of up to 150 km/h (95 mph). Breathtakingly beautiful.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki?title=Talk:Harris's_Hawk

I have seen vidoe of two hawks in a spiral dive holding each other's talons. Is this the Harris Hawk? If so, some mention of this unique behavior is warranted. Kjaer (talk) 03:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
More likely these were falcons or buzzards since harris hawks do not usually go to high enough altitudes in order to spiral down for any distance. were the birds in the video wild or captive bred?



Here are some clips of planes doing spins or spirals ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJdPz-txP8o
F16 doing a spiral diving tumble thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUaXKJSOAk
Kendal Simpson Smoke Spin Dive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flvpumX-J0g
Spins - August 4, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsK-twPWG6E
Ornithopter Falcon F5 Flight 8 Touch&Go Spin Dive by Wing 10

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Here's one of the perilous hiking paths of Hua Shan that goes by that name - 鹞子翻身.

http://baike.baidu.com/view/674610.htm

http://sh.lavago.com/scenery/yaozifanshen.html
http://sh.lavago.com/scenery/botaixiaqiting.html

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Hua



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自古华山一条路 May 23, 2009

I can't believe they let regular tourists up there!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrJizok2Nrs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDKLvG8AvCs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke4-cwNvDuE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cIQHPdwMXk


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自古华山一条路 May 23, 2009

Some of these images are just insane ...

http://70.85.48.252/bt/htm_data/10/0905/346975.html


BTW, Lesley, this might be the image of 鹞子翻身, going by its description.

http://www.sh-holiday.com/upload/user/IM66000781.jpg





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“自古华山一条路”; 兴隆山的' 鹞子翻身' ; 'swing bridge' May 23, 2009

Thank you very much, wherestip! It was very interesting. I found a map, in English. : http://www.maps-of-china.net/province/huashan.htm

This is my translation. I'm not sure whether the info on “千尺幢" is accurate, or how to translate 幢 in the name ... ‘Huashan ... is famous for its strangeness and perilousness. The "Qianchi Zhuang" is a place which must be passed through when climbing Huashan. The vertical crag can be climbed only by means of a one metre-wide fissure; it really is "From of old Huashan's only route". The "Canglong Ridge" is only several chi wide, with precipices on both sides so deep you cannot see the bottom. People walk along it trembling with fear.’
“华山位于陕西省的华阴县,以奇险闻名。“千尺幢"是登华山的必经之地,陡直的山岩上唯有一条约一米宽的石缝可登,真是“自古华山一条路”。“苍龙岭”只有几尺宽,两边是悬崖峭壁,深不见底,人行其上胆战心惊。”王永宽、等,《祖国》,中国青年出版社,北京,1983
位于陕西省的华阴县,以奇险闻名。“千尺X"是登华山的必经之地,陡直的山岩上唯有一条约一米宽的石缝可登,真是“自古华山一条路”。“苍龙岭”只有几尺宽,两边是悬崖峭壁,深不见底,人行其上胆战心惊。”王永宽、等,《祖国》,中国青年出版社,北京,1983 ]

Regarding ' 鹞子翻身', it seems that it isalso a move in martial arts and acrobatics: http://u2download.com/watch-video-陳逸民老師鷂子翻身示範-idfbu4d-5nq-E.htm
Thank you for your suggestion. I am quite puzzled by the reference to it in 'Xing Long Mountain'. Here is the source text: 由中锋北下,行约二里多路,便是幽静的北峰。锋头由庙,风景秀丽。但是,两峰之间却有一条深不见底的涧谷。人们为了通过此涧,在两旁崖畔钉上铁桩,拉上几道铁链,上铺木板,搭成索桥。游人过往,索桥浮动,桥下深涧,雾气沉沉故而得名“仙人桥”。后来人们恐怕不安全,就在崖壁挖出石窝,要过北峰,便手抓索链,脚踩石窝,悬吊而过,因此又称“鹞子翻身”。凡游崆峒者,大家都来参观一番此景,或亲身体验一下“鹞子翻身”的滋味。(段德义、齐宝玲、李映瑞 编,《甘肃旅游指南》,中国旅游出版社,北京,1982)

[另外,我认为‘ 索桥’ might be known as a 'swing bridge' in NZ (and 'cable bridge/suspension bridge' elsewhere): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOZhECMnn8E&feature=channel
Routeburn bridge on a misty autum day ]

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flip over May 23, 2009

Lesley,

Here's another term to consider for 鹞子翻身 ...

http://www.blithe.com/bhq2.1/falcons.html



I told Dad how, when you see the falcons as a heavier spot, and they do this funny curl and meet a tiny spot; that means they're teaching their kids how to hunt. The falcons kill a pigeon and carry it in their claws. They fly out and flip over upside-down, holding the pigeon up for the little falcon, who swoops down and tries to take it from its parents claws. Dad had never heard of that and thought the drunk Indian was just trying to get me to look up into he sky so he could swipe our change.



It's kind of a kooky essay, but the writing is good.


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