Someone can lie?
Thread poster: ture
ture
Local time: 03:26
Jul 3, 2009

Here I come across a Chinese woman on the website(a paid member in Belgium). She claimed she can translate very well and has tons of experience in Belgium. But I eventually found out everything what she said is a lie. She can lie anything in the CV? Should I reveal her user name, so everyone can avoid her? Otherwise, no trust on this website.

[Edited at 2009-07-03 04:35 GMT]


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Kevin Yang  Identity Verified
Local time: 18:26
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The Forum rule does not allow anyone to reveal the real name of a outsourcer. Jul 3, 2009

Hi, ture

You can use the Blue Board at this site to write about your experience with certain contractor and rate him/her. The Forum rule does not allow anyone to reveal the real name of an outsourcer. By the way, what made you so certain that everything she said is lie? Is your source absolutely reliable and supported by facts? You do not need to answer my questions, but do think about those questions.

Kevin



[修改时间: 2009-07-04 04:20 GMT]


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ture
Local time: 03:26
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Thanks for the reply. Jul 3, 2009

Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the email. I always think how people can trust each other. In China, we already lost trust, now it spreads .....

As I know, she has done some translations for some individual's application in chinese embassy or belgian government . Actually, she was hired by an individual, not the chinese embassy in Belgium or Belgian government. Can she claim that she has a client: chinese embassy in Belgium? Her husband works as a EU officer, then can she claim she has translated documents for EU officer, and have her husband as her reference?

Once lost trust, then forever....


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lbone  Identity Verified
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不厚道 Jul 4, 2009

ture wrote:

Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the email. I always think how people can trust each other. In China, we already lost trust, now it spreads .....

As I know, she has done some translations for some individual's application in chinese embassy or belgian government . Actually, she was hired by an individual, not the chinese embassy in Belgium or Belgian government. Can she claim that she has a client: chinese embassy in Belgium? Her husband works as a EU officer, then can she claim she has translated documents for EU officer, and have her husband as her reference?

Once lost trust, then forever....


不知道你说的是谁,不过感觉你自己说话不太厚道。

你新注册一个隐藏身份的ID上来,不愿意让别人知道自己是谁,却一上来就指责别人不可信。你要公布别人的名字,怎么就不敢公布自己的身份呢?

你知道这么多“事实”,显然是她信任你,才把事实告诉你,你却用她告诉你的事实来这儿指责她撒谎。

其实翻译水平看看简历、样稿和实际往来沟通中显示的文字和表达水平就明白了,那些背景或“事实”都是无所谓的,你自己不具备判断翻译水平的能力,却去指责她前后描述的经历有出入。实际上无论她受雇于个人(翻译了一些内容),还是直接或间接接受使馆的委托,在实际发生的翻译经历上并无实质区别,不都是翻译过使馆相关材料吗?关于她老公的reference和业务,那就更无问题了,那人正好是她老公不行吗?

[Edited at 2009-07-04 07:13 GMT]


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ture
Local time: 03:26
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Maybe I should say her CV is not accurate. Jul 4, 2009

Hi lbone,
Thanks for the reply. Maybe I should say her CV is not accurate and her CV is systematically biased and misleading people (If you have a look at her CV, you will find that she looks like a diplomat around EU and NATO in Brussels, ridiculuous...hehe). I am really wondering if a translator can not convey a truely situation in his/her CV, how can he/she do a good translation job?

Maybe you think it is normal in China, But I tell you not HERE ....


PS. Are your wife your reference ?

[quote]lbone wrote:


实际上无论她受雇于个人(翻译了一些内容),还是直接或间接接受使馆的委托,在实际发生的翻译经历上并无实质区别,不都是翻译过使馆相关材料吗?关于她老公的reference和业务,那就更无问题了,那人正好是她老公不行吗

[Edited at 2009-07-04 22:16 GMT]

[Edited at 2009-07-04 22:18 GMT]

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rhz820319
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good faith Jul 9, 2009

ends justify means.
economic benifits justify a lie though such lie does no harm to others?
利益至上原则是当代社会的主流啦——没有永远的敌人,只有永远的利益。
古人圣贤告诉我们的立身之本,五德(仁义礼智信)最根本的信在利益的面前也都经不住考验了。小小的谎言似乎无足重轻,不过却有损自身德性。
国人现在追求经济利益似乎过了点,感觉有必要把老祖宗的《道德经》翻一翻啦。


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