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奇葩级的翻译
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jyuan_us  Identity Verified
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Jan 29, 2014

今天遇到的,把副交感神经翻译为 DEPUTY 交感神经。

 

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这种处理毫无责任心可言 Jan 30, 2014

这人有起码的译者工作态度吗。

 

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究竟是态度问题还是能力问题? Feb 3, 2014

Lifeng Yang wrote:

这人有起码的译者工作态度吗。


抑或二者兼有之?


 

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还不如直接找google translate呢 Feb 15, 2014

一时好奇试了一下,现如今机器都不会犯这种低级错误了。。。

我觉得主要还是态度问题吧,一点责任心都没有。


 

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这证明了机器翻译的价值 Feb 16, 2014

ziptip wrote:

一时好奇试了一下,现如今机器都不会犯这种低级错误了。。。

我觉得主要还是态度问题吧,一点责任心都没有。



我个人以为直接原因是能力问题,深层原因才涉及态度问题。


 

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The proof is in the pudding Feb 16, 2014

J.H. Wang wrote:


我个人以为直接原因是能力问题,深层原因才涉及态度问题。


J.H.,

I personally wouldn't comment on the future usefulness of machine translation because I have no idea.

But if I take what you just said and plug it into Google Translate, this is what I get ...



I personally think that the reason is the ability to directly question the underlying causes of the problem was related to attitude



And if I back-translate the result using Google Translate ...



我个人认为,其原因是直接质疑问题的根本原因是有关态度的能力



So in my opinion, there's still a long way to go.


 

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Value Add Feb 16, 2014

On second thought, Google Translate has indeed come a long way in the English-to-Chinese direction of translation.

It does add substantial value in the sense of being able to spit out more or less most of the Chinese terms needed for a piece of translation. It seems like all that's left for the translator to do is to ensure that the terms are arranged in the correct order that reflects the true meaning of the English original, in addition to coming up with some terms that were incorrectly chosen by the machine.

I found this out by actually plugging in some text today.icon_smile.gif


 

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偶然看到的 Feb 17, 2014

http://dict.youdao.com/search?le=eng&q=computer%20usc&keyfrom=dict.index

原文:In addition, Zuckerberg invasion of a protected computer is* violated U. S. federal law 18 USC** 1030.

译文:此外,扎克伯格受保护的计算机入侵是违反美国联邦法18南加大1030。

Note:
* “is” should be “has”.
** “USC” refers to “U.S. Code”, not “University of Southern California”.


 

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单词短语还行 Feb 17, 2014

wherestip wrote:

On second thought, Google Translate has indeed come a long way in the English-to-Chinese direction of translation.

It does add substantial value in the sense of being able to spit out more or less most of the Chinese terms needed for a piece of translation. It seems like all that's left for the translator to do is to ensure that the terms are arranged in the correct order that reflects the true meaning of the English original, in addition to coming up with some terms that were incorrectly chosen by the machine.

I found this out by actually plugging in some text today.icon_smile.gif



句子翻译质量有待于提高。


 

jyuan_us  Identity Verified
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我这几天一直试用GOOGLE TRANSLATE Feb 17, 2014

乍一看,句子确实不怎么改就能用,但是,仔细一看,每个句子都需要调,调整所用时间和自己翻译差不多,有时你会感到改它的翻译备受折磨。

有时,你需要在改与不改之间折磨,折磨得时间你自己早就翻译完了。

有时你会被它误导。比如,酒店的PODIUM它会给你翻译成平台,稍微不注意就被它混过去了。
有时,微小的地方不恰当,你可能看几遍也看不出来。比如“一个套房”,一个停车位被翻译为“一个停车场”等等。 做了600字,看了4遍才把不恰当的改彻底。

相比之下,改别人手工翻译的稿,即使再差,也比改GOOGLE TRANSLATE的译文省时间。

[Edited at 2014-02-17 14:17 GMT]


 

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Use it as an aid Feb 17, 2014

jyuan_us wrote:

乍一看,句子确实不怎么改就能用,但是,仔细一看,每个句子都需要调,调整所用时间和自己翻译差不多,有时你会感到改它的翻译备受折磨。

有时,你需要在改与不改之间折磨,折磨得时间你自己早就翻译完了。

有时你会被它误导。比如,酒店的PODIUM它会给你翻译成平台,稍微不注意就被它混过去了。
有时,微小的地方不恰当,你可能看几遍也看不出来。比如“一个套房”,一个停车位被翻译为“一个停车场”等等。 做了600字,看了4遍才把布恰当的改彻底。

相比之下,改别人人工作的稿,即使再差,也比改GOOGLE TRANSLATE的译文省时间。


IMO, it's just a tool to assist in translation. It takes about what? ~5 seconds to cut-and-paste a large segment of text into the window. And voila! it spits out a result instantly. If nothing else, you can put it aside just for reference. Who knows? It could prompt you for some terminology like a thesaurus does.icon_smile.gif


 

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有时有用 Feb 17, 2014

wherestip wrote:

jyuan_us wrote:

乍一看,句子确实不怎么改就能用,但是,仔细一看,每个句子都需要调,调整所用时间和自己翻译差不多,有时你会感到改它的翻译备受折磨。

有时,你需要在改与不改之间折磨,折磨得时间你自己早就翻译完了。

有时你会被它误导。比如,酒店的PODIUM它会给你翻译成平台,稍微不注意就被它混过去了。
有时,微小的地方不恰当,你可能看几遍也看不出来。比如“一个套房”,一个停车位被翻译为“一个停车场”等等。 做了600字,看了4遍才把布恰当的改彻底。

相比之下,改别人人工作的稿,即使再差,也比改GOOGLE TRANSLATE的译文省时间。


IMO, it's just a tool to assist in translation. It takes about what? ~5 seconds to cut-and-paste a large segment of text into the window. And voila! it spits out a result instantly. If nothing else, you can put it aside just for reference. Who knows? It could prompt you for some terminology like a thesaurus does.icon_smile.gif


有一次我翻译了几千个单词的词汇表,用了不到一小时。感觉硬科学的东西它能翻译好,比如ANATOMICAL TERMS, 病名,检验项目等,你想让它错都错不了,但人文的东西, 软的东西, 管理的东西, 它几乎就无法翻译正确,比如MEDICARE里的用语, 基本上它不会翻。

[Edited at 2014-02-17 14:16 GMT]


 

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不一定 Feb 17, 2014

jyuan_us wrote:

相比之下,改别人手工翻译的稿,即使再差,也比改GOOGLE TRANSLATE的译文省时间。

[Edited at 2014-02-17 14:17 GMT]

有些很差的译稿,明显就是在 Google 翻译基础上修改后交差的。但是,修改这种译稿,未必比自己用 Google 重新翻译后再修改会省时间,因为你得花时间琢磨如何保留一些原译稿中还可以保留的东西。

[Edited at 2014-02-17 20:01 GMT]


 

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有时人还不如 Google 翻得好 Feb 17, 2014

ysun wrote:

偶然看到的

http://dict.youdao.com/search?le=eng&q=computer%20usc&keyfrom=dict.index

原文:In addition, Zuckerberg invasion of a protected computer is* violated U. S. federal law 18 USC** 1030.

译文:此外,扎克伯格受保护的计算机入侵是违反美国联邦法18南加大1030。

“受保护的计算机入侵”?入侵别人计算机的行为受谁的保护?

Google翻译如下:
此外,扎克伯格入侵受保护计算机是违反了美国联邦法律18 USC1030。


 

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其實所謂機械翻譯是源自人手翻譯 Feb 17, 2014

https://translate.google.com/about/intl/en_ALL/

因此,輸進人手翻譯愈多,機械翻譯就愈精準。


 
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