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Translating index from English into Chinese
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Denyce Seow  Identity Verified
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Chinese to English
Nov 14, 2006

I have an EN>ZH translation of an index. However, the problem is that both the translator and proofreader left it in English alphabetical order. Here is an example:


E
电解质添加物,TPE操作程序2-5
终点,为TPE操作程序设置2-3
设备及用品
LPE操作程序7-2
血小板去除操作程序5-2
RBCX操作程序4-2


I am thinking of rearranging the index according to hanyu pinyin. It will take a lot of time, and I don't think I can charge the client extra for this. Do you think this is necessary? What is the best way to do it?

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xxxchance
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把它们拷贝到EXCEL,使用EXCEL里的排序功能即可,然后再复制到WORD Nov 14, 2006

如果你是外语系统,需要在CONTROL PANEL将地区数字格式改变为中国。

[Edited at 2006-11-14 09:01]


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Yuejun LIU
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UltraEdit-32 helps Nov 14, 2006

We can use UltraEdit-32 to rearrange the text like the following(English in alphabetical order and Chinese in hanyu pinyin order):
E
LPE操作程序7-2
RBCX操作程序4-2
电解质添加物,TPE操作程序2-5
设备及用品
血小板去除操作程序5-2
终点,为TPE操作程序设置2-3


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Denyce Seow  Identity Verified
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Region and Language Option? Nov 14, 2006

chance wrote:

如果你是外语系统,需要在CONTROL PANEL将地区数字格式改变为中国。


Are you referring to the "Region and Language Option" icon in the CONTROL PANEL? I am using German Windows, so I am a bit lost...

Denyce


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xxxchance
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是其中之一,下图中的第二项,我是法语系统,你只好凑合看了: Nov 14, 2006



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Wenjer Leuschel  Identity Verified
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這招好 Nov 14, 2006

chance wrote:
把它们拷贝到EXCEL,使用EXCEL里的排序功能即可,然后再复制到WORD
如果你是外语系统,需要在CONTROL PANEL将地区数字格式改变为中


這招好,偷學到了。

對了,昨夜真的通宵,五點半闔眼,七點半 morning call (這詞怎譯中文的?),和一位譯者聊了一個早上,下午做半天工。現在勁兒來了,催你過去你那一欄,酒香正濃,你還要讓我們饞多久?今天和一位年輕有為的譯者小聊,說到我們這些老傢伙應該到巴黎找 chance 開一場中文 Powwow,到時你可別忘了為我們準備點兒夠味的。嘿嘿。


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Denyce Seow  Identity Verified
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Thanks, chance Nov 14, 2006

but, but, but... I don't have the Chinese option. I don't know why. Maybe I will try on another computer later.

Denyce

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xxxchance
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别着急,再仔细看看这幅图 Nov 14, 2006



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Bill Mak  Identity Verified
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Selection of Chinese Nov 14, 2006

Denyce Seow wrote:

but, but, but... I don't have the Chinese option. I don't know why. Maybe I will try on another computer later.

Denyce

[Edited at 2006-11-14 09:49]


In Windows XP

1.
In Regional and Language options->
Under 'Languages" tab

make sure you have select both
> "Install files for complex script and right-to-left languages (including Thai), AND
> Install files for East Asian Languages

Then Click Ok. If the fonts have not be installed, it will ask you for the CD.

2.
In "Advanced" tab for non-unicode options
Select "Chinese (Taiwan)" If you are a CHT user (TW + HK)
Select "Chinese (PRC)" If you are a CHS user (China)

ok..then restart

The above steps somewhat similar in Windows 2000. I hope this help.


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Denyce Seow  Identity Verified
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It worked!! Nov 15, 2006

Cool! I did what Bill and Chance taught me and it worked! It was amazing to see how Excel sort Chinese text. Thanks to all of you!!

Unfortunately, I don't think I can use Chance's method. The problem now is that some items have sub-items. If I just copy and paste them into Excel for sorting, I will mix them up.

Guess I have to do this manually... There goes my weekend.

Denyce


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Last Hermit
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阿姨,不必多此一举! Nov 15, 2006

直接在Word里面就可以搞掂。

chance wrote:

如果你是外语系统,需要在CONTROL PANEL将地区数字格式改变为中国。

[Edited at 2006-11-14 09:01]


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xxxchance
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weiwei, Sorry 白让你饶了一圈 Nov 15, 2006

隐士说得对,在word里就可以完成,而且可以排sub-items。在word帮助里查“排列”关键字后,会有详细说明。

Last Hermit wrote:

直接在Word里面就可以搞掂。

chance wrote:

如果你是外语系统,需要在CONTROL PANEL将地区数字格式改变为中国。

[Edited at 2006-11-14 09:01]


[Edited at 2006-11-15 09:55]


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Denyce Seow  Identity Verified
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Thanks, chance Nov 15, 2006

chance wrote:

隐士说得对,在word里就可以完成,而且可以排sub-items。在word帮助里查“排列”关键字后,会有详细说明。



Nope, don't have to say sorry. You've been a great help. It's good that I learned something. I tried to sort the index, but it did not work. The whole thing got messed up.

Denyce

[Edited at 2006-11-15 14:11]


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xxxchance
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如果愿意,把你的稿子发给我,我周末可用word或Excel试试看 Nov 15, 2006

你的WORD也是德文版?

Denyce Seow wrote:

chance wrote:

隐士说得对,在word里就可以完成,而且可以排sub-items。在word帮助里查“排列”关键字后,会有详细说明。



Nope, don't have to say sorry. You've been a great help. It's good that I learned something. I tried to sort the index, but it did not work. The whole thing got messed up.

Denyce

[Edited at 2006-11-15 14:11]


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Xiangdong Zhuo
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我也可以效劳 Nov 16, 2006

这种排序的琐碎我也愿意代劳,好让版主抽出宝贵的时间关注网站栏目的规划和运作。

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