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“儿童不宜” Jan 15, 2008

借小周一块宝地贴上一帖。

今天翻译一篇医药文章,其中有一句话 “Keep out of reach of children”。大概在每个药瓶标签上也都有这句话。出于好奇,我上网查了一下,结果发现各种译法,五花八门。我认为较好的是“避免儿童接触”;“勿让儿童触及”也不错。最让人忍俊不禁的是“儿童不宜”。我觉得把它写在“色戒”的电影广告上更为合适。:D

其它的还有:
避免儿童误服
远离儿童(多远?)
避免儿童擅自取用(家长指导下能否取用?)
放在儿童伸手拿不到的地方(伸脚可够到的地方行不行?)
别说我在抬杠!


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Rise of the Sea Turtles Aug 29, 2008

A recent article by Newsweek's Beijing Bureau chief Melinda Liu ...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/151730


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白云深处有人家 Aug 29, 2008

刚才在翻阅 Newsweek, 读到上面这篇伴有插图的文章. 我还以为国内如今流行大白字呢. 原来唐代杜牧的诗都有争议

http://news.sohu.com/20060919/n245411661.shtml



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保存在兒童拿不到的地方 Aug 29, 2008

Yueyin Sun wrote:

借小周一块宝地贴上一帖。

今天翻译一篇医药文章,其中有一句话 “Keep out of reach of children”。大概在每个药瓶标签上也都有这句话。出于好奇,我上网查了一下,结果发现各种译法,五花八门。我认为较好的是“避免儿童接触”;“勿让儿童触及”也不错。最让人忍俊不禁的是“儿童不宜”。我觉得把它写在“色戒”的电影广告上更为合适。:D

其它的还有:
避免儿童误服
远离儿童(多远?)
避免儿童擅自取用(家长指导下能否取用?)
放在儿童伸手拿不到的地方(伸脚可够到的地方行不行?)
别说我在抬杠!


如標題的這個譯文含有“藏起來”﹐放在高處﹐上鎖等意思。

[Edited at 2008-08-29 21:46]


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PEILING﹐你強調得這些句子讓我感覺到﹐作者在寫這段文字時心里想的是 Aug 29, 2008

不說也罷了。

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這個老馬侃真是老奸巨猾啊 Aug 29, 2008

弄個女明星當搭檔。這麼老的人﹐腦瓜怎麼那麼清楚啊。

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今儿早晨看到一篇文章,笑了好一会儿。 Sep 23, 2008

http://www.jwb.com.cn/jwb/html/2008-09/12/content_188878.htm

谐音与简称

何 申

汉语中同音字、词甚多。如果不联系特定的句子,有时根本就弄不清指的是什么,甚至还会出现意思完全变了的尴尬,包括人的名字。多年前我见一人,他叫王寿忠。喝酒时大家逗他怎么这么年轻就“寿终”了?还有姓范的叫剑,就成了“犯贱”。杜子滕成了“肚子疼”。

莫笑,这表明中国汉语博大精深奥妙无穷。不仅外国人学起来难度很大,连咱们自己也容易闹出笑话。比如我这个笔名,当初使用时清朝戏远没出来。倒是隐约知道有个叫和珅的,但一般都念成“和坤”,到现在一般电脑系统里都没有这个“珅”字。后来王刚演和珅演红了,我到北京开会,在前台一登记出来一大帮女服务员看,吓了我一跳,事后才知道她们以为是王刚来了。我想换个名,却不行,文学界还就认这个名,他们称呼起来很自然,不会想到王刚那儿去。好在那个和珅是好几百年前的人,他的事跟咱不搭边,音同就同吧。可如果是袁士慨、蒋结实、姜卿、章春乔、王宏闻、尧纹元,那说什么都得改了,这些人离得太近,天天这么叫,太难受了。

对于谐音后会产生异义的称呼,还是讲究一些才好。河北有位老诗人姓潘,笔名浪波,当过省文联主席。熟人和下属,皆称潘主席。场面上叫浪波先生、浪波主席亦合适。但也常有初见面者敬佩得失了分寸,一口一个浪主席、浪主席,叫得旁人身上直起鸡皮疙瘩。还比如给孩子起名叫怡,王怡、李怡、孙怡、赵怡。你在家随便怎么叫,叫姨奶都行,出去见到朋友,就得注意了。指着孩子对一位五十多岁的老爷们说:“这是孙怡。”对方不喝多也得犯晕:哪冒出这么个小姨?

对姓王姓桑的称呼也得注意。叫王先生王大哥,或者称后面的字都好。那天在火葬场大门口有王姓、桑姓二位,见面很是客气,彼此抱拳作揖你称我“王兄”,我称你“桑兄”。后来见大伙直瞅,老王先转过劲来,说咱俩别客气了,人家都以为你丧我亡了。

前几天我夫人带外孙上街,偶见到姓朱的女同事,一时反应不及,拉过外孙说:叫朱姥姥。我那外孙可不是省油灯,他立刻说:牛姥姥。完啦,活急死人。其实叫姥姥就行。这可不是说咱硬往歪处想,汉字里使用频率最高的就是猪马牛羊狗猫兔鱼虾虫,一旦与姓同音,就得注意了,尤其要注意后面的词。如在报社,编辑简称王编李编,碰上姓马牛杨的,就不能简为马编牛编杨编了。叫了就不尊重了。姓胡也不行,胡编?

这就说到了简称。简称是把多字句化简,以便称呼和记住。但简不好也容易出笑话。“文明办”,是社会主义精神文明建设办公室的简称。但这个简称显然不符合简称规范。如按规范,应为“社精办”。1983年刚开始搞时,我当过承德地区的办公室主任,当时上下都这么称呼。后来不知什么时候改了,改得很好,文明了。还有就是各地不论叫××技术学院,是坚决不能像师院商院那么简称的,你见开会时哪位领导在台上问:“技院的同志来了吗?”

最新的事,是我们这儿搞城市改造力度甚大,造福百姓功莫大焉。要求三年大变样,并专设有“三年大变样办公室”。坊间传闻,先使用的口号是:“一年一小变,三年大变样。”有人就开玩笑说一年才(小便)一次,膀胱受不了呀。传开,后来就改成:“一年一大变”,又有人说那也憋不起呀。再后来就改成“一年一变样,三年大变样”,从而避免了同音出异义的问题。但这类逗乐的话,领导是不知道的,也没人敢跟他说。领导在会上还很认真地讲:“这个这个,‘大变办’的同志,工作很努力,尤其是史主任……”台下就有了笑声。这领导不愧是新时期的领导,反应敏捷,应对极强,立刻说:“对对,笑得对。这个简称得改改。史主任,你叫啥来着?”


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Translation of Obama's Victory Speech Nov 7, 2008

I don’t know who made this Chinese version of Obama’s victory speech, but, personally, I think the Chinese translation is very good.

如果还有人对美国是否凡事都有可能存疑,还有人怀疑美国奠基者的梦想在我们所处的时代是否依然鲜活,还有人质疑我们的民主制度的力量,那么今晚,这些问题都有了答案。
If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible; who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time; who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer.

这是设在学校和教堂的投票站前排起的前所未见的长队给出的答案;是等了三四个小时的选民所给出的答案,其中许多人都是有生以来第一次投票,因为他们认定这一次肯定会不一样,认为自己的声音会是这次大选有别于以往之所在。
It's the answer told by lines that stretched around schools and churches in numbers this nation has never seen; by people who waited three hours and four hours, many for the very first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different; that their voice could be that difference.

这是所有美国人民共同给出的答案--无论老少贫富,无论是民主党还是共和党,无论是黑人、白人、拉美裔、亚裔、原住民,是同性恋者还是异性恋者、残疾人还是健全人--我们从来不是“红州”和“蓝州”的对立阵营,我们是美利坚合众国这个整体,永远都是。
It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Latino, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled - Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been a collection of Red States and Blue States: we are, and always will be, the United States of America.

长久以来,很多人一再受到告诫,要对我们所能取得的成绩极尽讽刺、担忧和怀疑之能事,但这个答案让这些人伸出手来把握历史,再次让它朝向美好明天的希望延伸。
It's the answer that led those who have been told for so long by so many to be cynical, and fearful, and doubtful of what we can achieve to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.

已经过去了这么长时间,但今晚,由于我们在今天、在这场大选中、在这个具有决定性的时刻所做的,美国已经迎来了变革。
It's been a long time coming, but tonight, because of what we did on this day, in this election, at this defining moment, change has come to America.

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See the full text of the Chinese translation at:
http://news.cnlist.com/CnlistNewsDetail.aspx?tablename=CNLIST_SELF_NEWS&GUID={FD5B7609-7DC0-45D9-8A1C-102971C37DF5}

See the full text of the English version at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/obama-victory-speech_n_141194.html

(I must state that this posting is about translation, not about politics.)

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The reference of " the arc of history" Nov 7, 2008

Yueyin,

看了你的帖子, 我才去查 "the arc of history" 的出处. 原来是如此 ...


http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2008/11/echoes-of-king.html



"It's the answer that led those who have been told for so long, by so many, to be cynical and fearful and doubtful about what we can achieve ... to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day."

"The arc of history." It is a direct reference to one of King's most riveting lines, spoken in Montgomery, Alabama after the long and dangerous march from Selma in March, 1965. King said he knew people were asking how long it would take to achieve justice. "How long?" he asked, over and over, making listeners desperate for an answer -- and then he supplied the answer.

"How long? Not long. Because the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." It was a refrain King came to use often, sometimes referring to the "arc of history," sometimes to the "arc of the moral universe."



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这姑娘肯定是北京人,至少肯定是北方人。 Nov 8, 2008

Jianjun Zhang wrote:

文章標題:

作家眼中的北京姑娘:就凭姿色实在不招人


那照片中的姑娘不像北方人,作秀而已。文章在此:

http://culture.china.com/zh_cn/life/city/11022829/20070904/14320350.html

jyuan_us wrote:



[Edited at 2007-09-05 05:45]



只有北京人、东北人和蒙古人才喜欢留这种帘子一样的前刘海。

这姑娘长得是典型北方人的样子,特别是这张宽而平的脸,大眼睛,宽鼻子、宽而薄的嘴,跟我好几个北京女同事象的一塌糊涂。

还有项链和衣服,女性化中带着一点粗旷和野性(但不是粗气),气质带一点直率和骄矜,是典型北京女孩子的样子。


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歷史之弧 Nov 8, 2008

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/speeches/obama-victory-speech.html#

質疑“新東方譯本”的奧巴馬勝選演說_張放博客_新浪博客 - 簡 - [ 轉為繁體網頁 - Translate this page ]2008年11月7日 ... 4、“the arc of history”。譯成“歷史之輪”,讓人感到糊塗。從譯文上看,不知道這個“ 歷史之輪”到底是用在手上,還是用於腳下。根據漢語,既然是“輪”, ...
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arc of history - 簡 - [ 轉為繁體網頁 - Translate this page ]長久以來,很多人一再受到告誡,要批判、擔憂並質疑我們所能取得的成績,正是這個答案讓這些人伸出手來把握歷史的方向盤(arc有方向盤之義,謔),再次轉向希望——更好 ...
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質疑“新東方譯本”的奧巴馬勝選演說_張放博客_新浪博客 - 簡 - [ 轉為繁體網頁 - Translate this page ]2008年11月7日 ... 實際上,這“the arc of history”原意為“歷史的弧線”,而奧巴馬則鼓勵美國民眾,要把這“歷史的弧線”重新彎曲過來,並迫使它朝著更好的未來前行。 ...
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《新東方譯本:奧巴馬獲勝演講全文》竟然錯誤百出!zz - 文學城: 熱點 ... - 簡 - [ 轉為繁體網頁 - Translate this page ]實際上,這“the arc of history”原意為“歷史的弧線”,而奧巴馬則鼓勵美國民眾,要把這“歷史的弧線”重新彎曲過來,並迫使它朝著更好的未來前行。因為奧巴馬認為美國在八 ...
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A Newsweek Article Feb 11, 2009

"A Novel English Lesson" ...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/183661

Same article, different link ...
http://mobile.newsweek.com/detail.jsp?key=42603&rc=cu&p=1&pv=1


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A CNN report Feb 16, 2009

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/02/15/china.publishing/index.html

For many Chinese, literary dreams go online



If it weren't for the Internet, Murong Xuecun might still be working as a sales manager at a car company in the southern Chinese city of Chengdu. That is what he was doing when he started writing his first novel on his office's online bulletin board system back in 2001.

Week by week when he got home from work, Murong would post new pieces to a story that painted a bleak yet honest picture of modern urban life in the city where he lived. It contained tales about sex, love, gambling and drugs and became so popular that it soon appeared on numerous other online forums.

Today the 35-year-old is considered one of the most famous authors to have emerged in contemporary China. His debut work, "Leave Me Alone: A novel of Chengdu," has been read by millions of Chinese "netizens" -- steady Internet users -- and adapted for film and television and translated into German, French and English.



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令人感动的真人真事 Feb 21, 2009

90-year-old Ian Thiermann back at work, after losing his entire life savings in the Madoff debacle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsuCfz47d4U


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