Off topic: 谁动了我的“问题”？(Who touched my "Questions"?) Thread poster: Shang
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Shang
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Local time: 05:29
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最近一段时间，几次发现自己post的问题根本就没有贴上去，不知道是系统问题还是有人捣鬼，实在纳闷。不知各位是否遇到过类似问题。
[Edited at 2007-04-26 09:21]
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Jianjun Zhang 
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:29
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Shang wrote:
最近一段时间，几次发现自己post的问题根本就没有贴上去，不知道是系统问题还是有人捣鬼，实在纳闷。不知各位是否遇到过类似问题。
我在想，Proz是开放社区，不是你我的自留地，谁也不惹你，别来损招。
Shang,
你那几贴是在何时贴出的？是回复还是新讨论？最近三四天没有看到你有新帖子。若能提供具体时间和栏目，我去帮你看看。
建军
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Shang
China
Local time: 05:29
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TOPIC STARTER
是翻译问题，莫非被系统过滤掉了？
既不是淫秽色情内容，也不会令人不快，都是技术问题，怎么会这样呢？唉！
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Jianjun Zhang
United Kingdom
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我在这一贴上加了注释，看看是否其他语言和版面的管理员有同样经历，如果真是系统问题，应该及早解决，免得发生误会。我想系统不会自动过滤帖子，如果真有这功能，也应该保留帖子，然后由管理员来决定是否公开帖子内容。电脑程序总是不可靠的。
[Edited at 2007-04-26 05:59]
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
Taiwan
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Shang wrote:
是翻译问题，莫非被系统过滤掉了？
既不是淫秽色情内容，也不会令人不快，都是技术问题，怎么会这样呢？唉！
我想，可能有誤會。你先檢視一下貼問題的程序，再看貼後是否確曾存在過那個 KudoZ 問題貼；若確曾存在，應該有一個問題號碼，按著那個號碼發 support ticket 讓 ProZ 當局查找，很容易可以找到問題所在。
比方說，你的 http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1887372 這貼之後還有許多貼，它們的 incremental 號碼都是連貫的，每貼加 2，並沒有出現斷貼情況。
如有人 squash 你的問題，那是會留下紀錄的。
[Edited at 2007-04-26 06:10]
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Shang
China
Local time: 05:29
English to Chinese
TOPIC STARTER | no support ticket | Apr 26, 2007 |
Wenjer Leuschel wrote:
我想，可能有誤會。你先檢視一下貼問題的程序，再看貼後是否確曾存在過那個 KudoZ 問題貼；若確曾存在，應該有一個問題號碼，按著那個號碼發 support ticket 讓 ProZ 當局查找系統，很容易可找到問題所在。
如有人 squash，那是會留下紀錄的。
我直接在Proz网站上贴，不知道还有其他工具（有点土，呵呵），所以没有留下任何蛛丝马迹。
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
Taiwan
Local time: 05:29
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Shang wrote:
我直接在Proz网站上贴，不知道还有其他工具（有点土，呵呵），所以没有留下任何蛛丝马迹。
每次在 KudoZ 貼文提問，都會自動產生一個流水號，就是那個問題的號碼，你發 support ticket 給 ProZ 時，可以指出那個號碼，讓他們的技術人員查找 whereabouts。
依我的看法，既然後頭別人貼的問題都沒有斷裂流水號，你的問題可能根本沒貼上，所以沒有產生流水號，當然也不會有人看到後給你 squash。因此，我說你要先檢視一下你貼問題的程序，你的問題很可能是貼文時忽略了某個必要步驟，因此造成誤會了。
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Shang
China
Local time: 05:29
English to Chinese
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Wenjer Leuschel wrote:
依我的看法，既然後頭別人貼的問題都沒有斷裂流水號，你的問題可能根本沒貼上，所以沒有產生流水號，當然也不會有人看到後給你 squash。因此，我說你要先檢視一下你貼問題的程序，你的問題很可能是貼文時忽略了某個必要步驟，因此造成誤會了。
该选的选项都选了，而且显示最后的确认屏幕了。没有确认邮件，Proz当然就不显示问题。收到确认邮件的就没有问题。
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
Taiwan
Local time: 05:29
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Shang wrote:
该选的选项都选了，而且显示最后的确认屏幕了。没有确认邮件，Proz当然就不显示问题。收到确认邮件的就没有问题。
顯示最後的確認屏幕時，是否看得見那些 ask another question, show your last question, show all questions you ask 等等選項的畫面？
如果看得見，那才是正常完成貼問題的動作。否則中間一定發生的什麼問題。因此，我猜測，既沒有人 squash 了你的問題，也不是 mods 屏蔽了你的問題。那就純屬誤會了。
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Shang
China
Local time: 05:29
English to Chinese
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对，都显示下面这样的东西了：
Your question has been forwarded to ProZ.com users who:
Speak the necessary languages,
Have reported relevant expertise, and
Have indicated a willingness to answer questions
(Registered users who fit this description: 280)
You will be notified by email each time someone responds to your que... See more 对，都显示下面这样的东西了：
Your question has been forwarded to ProZ.com users who:
Speak the necessary languages,
Have reported relevant expertise, and
Have indicated a willingness to answer questions
(Registered users who fit this description: 280)
You will be notified by email each time someone responds to your question.
URL of your question: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1887760
Note: It is recommended that you wait 24 hours before selecting a best answer. This will allow pros from around the world to research and answer.
To ask another question: [click here]
To search KudoZ glossaries: [click here]
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Jianjun Zhang
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:29
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I have posted an inquiry for all the ModZ and site administration staff to read regarding your concern.
Now let's wait if they can help find out whether this is a system glitch or someone blocked those questions intentionally or, those questions, for some strange reason, never reached the server.
Best Regards,
Jianjun
Moderator KudoZ
Shang wrote: 对，都显示下面这样的东西了： Your question has been forwarded to ProZ.com users who: Speak the necessary languages, Have reported relevant expertise, and Have indicated a willingness to answer questions (Registered users who fit this description: 280) You will be notified by email each time someone responds to your question. URL of your question: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1887760 Note: It is recommended that you wait 24 hours before selecting a best answer. This will allow pros from around the world to research and answer. To ask another question: [click here] To search KudoZ glossaries: [click here] To return to the home page: [click here] To view your latest question: [click here] To view all your questions: [click here] To view recent questions in English to Chinese : [click here]
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
Taiwan
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| Well, your question is there. | Apr 26, 2007 |
The question is there, too. Was it delayed or something?
Shang wrote: Your question has been forwarded to ProZ.com users who: Speak the necessary languages, Have reported relevant expertise, and Have indicated a willingness to answer questions (Registered users who fit this description: 280) You will be notified by email each time someone responds to your question. URL of your question: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1887760 ...
As I see it now, you started the thread at 5:38am and posted the question you mentioned at 9:19am today. That means, you believe that you have lost an earlier question posting than the one you said you completed the posting procedure in its right order.
However, it seems to me that you must have made a mistake when you posted the lost question. Or else, you would have the posting number for the KudoZ question. Besides, there isn't any number in the system lost from http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1887372 to http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1887760 and there isn't any squash record. I guess, it must be just a mistake while you did the posting.
[Edited at 2007-04-26 14:53]
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Jianjun Zhang
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| Hi Shang and All, | Apr 26, 2007 |
我收到 Enrique (网站员工，也是我的上司) 有关此问题的回复如下：
If you ask beyond your daily limit your questions will be queued, and will be published when they fall within the limit again (24 hours after you asked a question, another will be allowed in your daily limit). This can explain a delay.
如果你的问题超过每日限额，问题会进入等候队列。待问题数量重新返回限额以内时（当日所问第一个问题 24 小�... See more 我收到 Enrique (网站员工，也是我的上司) 有关此问题的回复如下：
If you ask beyond your daily limit your questions will be queued, and will be published when they fall within the limit again (24 hours after you asked a question, another will be allowed in your daily limit). This can explain a delay.
如果你的问题超过每日限额，问题会进入等候队列。待问题数量重新返回限额以内时（当日所问第一个问题 24 小时后，下一问题计入限额）即会发布。这是延迟的原因。
OTOH, if you go beyond your weekly limit, or you have more old open questions than allowed, you are simply prevented from asking. No delays here.
另一方面，如果你超过周限额，或未关闭的旧问题数量超过限额，就根本无法提问，而不是延迟。
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有关限额的问题：(http://www.proz.com/faq/kudoz#kudoz_question_limit)
31. ASKING: Is there a limit on the number of questions that I can ask?
31. 问： 我提问题是否有数量限制？
Yes. Your daily limit (measured over a sliding 24-hr period) depends on your membership level. If you are not registered with ProZ.com, you can ask one (1) question per day. If you are registered but not member, you can ask five (5). If you are member, you can ask fifteen (15). There are also weekly limits of 20 questions for registered non-members and 60 questions for members.
有。您每天（按24小时计算）的最高限额取决于您的会员资格水平。 如果您没有在ProZ.com上注册，每天只能提1个问题。如果您注册了，但不是会员，可以提5个问题。 如果您是会员，可以提15个问题。注册的非会员每个星期的最高限额是20个问题，会员的最高限额是60个问题。
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你在第一贴里说“最近”，看来也许不是第一段中的延迟。那么依据第二段，你根本不会成功发出问题，所以也无所谓延迟。其他不同国家的管理者包括网站人员没有提出有任何系统问题。当然，更没有人会“捣鬼”。
Enrique 建议这种情况请使用“网站支持” Support Ticket 来解决。
祝大家顺利！:)
建军
Moderator, KudoZ
[Edited at 2007-04-27 00:37] ▲ Collapse
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