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Kemal Mustajbegovic  Identity Verified
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...na kojeg sam naišao.

"Na akumulaciji "Javorica" u Slatini tijekom vikenda održava se vježba potražnih pasa s područja cijele Hrvatske u kojoj sudjeluje sedam timova s ukupno 12 uvježbanih potražnih pasa."

Gdje se i zašto izgubio pas tragač?


 

eleonora_r  Identity Verified
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Google Feb 28, 2009

potražni pas 550 : pas tragač 8.880

 

John Farebrother  Identity Verified
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nova generacija Mar 1, 2009

To je izgleda nova rasa

 

Kemal Mustajbegovic  Identity Verified
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new breed Mar 1, 2009

Definitely new breed. But I'm confused - is it a new breed of dogs or new breed of linguists.

 

John Farebrother  Identity Verified
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kopilad Mar 1, 2009

Kemal Mustajbegovic wrote:

- is it a new breed of dogs or new breed of linguists.


Mozda su se ukrstili


 

Kemal Mustajbegovic  Identity Verified
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I didn't say that Mar 1, 2009

BTW John, I believe you wouldn't mind if I draw your attention to one misinterpretation. "Kopile, pl. kopilad" is actually an offspring whose parentage is unknown. You might have used "križanac" which means "interbreed". I have a feeling that's what you wanted to say.

But I'm turning this off-topic into a serious tone. Sorry about it.

Cheers from Down-Under!


 

John Farebrother  Identity Verified
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svaki da u svakom pogledu Mar 1, 2009

hvala na savjetu
vise sam htio da se nasmije, nego da iznosim neki znanstveni komentar
ali slazem se: 'krizanac': half-breed


 

PeregrineFalcon
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križanac i križanje Mar 2, 2009

pas je križanac a dobiven je križanjem (ne ukrštanjem) dviju pasmina,naravno, ako se radi o hrvatskom jeziku a ne o srpskom, crnogorskom ili bosanskom. ako se ne zna tko su mu roditelji (to jest njihova pasmina) onda je mješanac.
A što se tiče psa tragača.... to je svakako pas tragač a ne niti potražni pas niti pas istražitelj:) niti išta slično.

[Edited at 2009-03-02 00:32 GMT]


 

Kemal Mustajbegovic  Identity Verified
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I ja sam za smijeh Mar 2, 2009

All I wanted to say is that "kopile" is one very offensive expression in Croatian. And we don't want to offend anyone, do we?

Have a good start of a week.


 

Dragomir Kovacevic  Identity Verified
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. Mar 6, 2009

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[Edited at 2009-03-06 09:19 GMT]


 

Kemal Mustajbegovic  Identity Verified
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Mar 6, 2009



[Edited at 2009-03-06 15:06 GMT]


 

alz  Identity Verified
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"biser" ipak ima svoj sjaj (barem donekle) Mar 17, 2009

Po mom mišljenj ovdje se prije radi o klasifikaciji nego li o lingvističkoj akrobaciji i želji za stvaranjem nove riječi. A, po osobnom iskustvu mogu tvrditi da kinološke klasifikacije ne slijede uvijek i jezičnu logiku.

U širem smislu svi psi koji traže jesu psi tragači. U užem smislu stvari se razlikuju.

Psi tragači su psi, najčešće lovački, koji slijede trag lovine ili osobe koja ga ostavlja za sobom svojim kretanjem, najčešće se posebno ne školuju (ne dresiraju), jer to im je urođeni istinkt.

Potražni psi, međutim, su najčešće takozvani službeni psi koji su obučeni za potragu za osobama zatrpanim u snijegu, lavinama, ruševinama i sl., ili za potragu za tvarima određenog mirisa (droga, eksploziv, i sl.) Posebnom se obukom dresiraju da određenim ponašanjem signaliziraju kada pronađu ili osjete zatrpanu osobu odnosno tvar.

Ukratko: psi tragači slijede trag, potražni psi traže bez traga. Ili da stvar bude još kompliciranija: svi su psi tragači tragači, samo su neki tragači potražni psi.

A klasifikacija može ići i dalje: tragači mogu biti poenteri, krvosljednici, šunjkavci ..... ali najbolje da se Lessie ipak vrati kućiicon_smile.gif


 

iustitia
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još jedan biser... sorry, I could not resist Jun 26, 2009

For our fellow translators who are not native Croatian speakers : in Croatian "kojeg" is used only for persons (two or four legged ones). For objects or abstract notions one should use "koji" in the accusative case.

e.g.
Čovjek na kojeg sam naišao.
Potražni pas na kojeg sam naišao.
Novinski članak na koji sam naišao.
So, not "biser na KOJEG sam naišao", but "biser na KOJI sam naišao"


 

Lingua 5B  Identity Verified
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May I add another one? Jun 30, 2009

iustitia wrote:
in Croatian "kojeg" is used only for persons (two or four legged ones).


I have never met a four-legged " person"; perhaps only in SF movies/cartoons and video games.

If it's an animal then it can't be referred to as a " person".


 

Ana Irena Hudi
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but the message is more than clear! Jul 5, 2009

Lingua 5B wrote:

I have never met a four-legged " person"; perhaps only in SF movies/cartoons and video games.

If it's an animal then it can't be referred to as a " person".

icon_smile.gif However, in essence, our colleague made her point really well - "kojeg" is really used for any kind of beings while "koji" is used for objects, and many non-native Croatian speakers find it confusing.


 
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