Off topic: How do you react when the source is a badly scanned PDF?
Thread poster: RominaZ

RominaZ  Identity Verified
Argentina
English to Spanish
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Jul 5, 2013

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LEXpert  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 23:24
Member (2008)
Croatian to English
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Ever wonder... Jul 5, 2013

if they purposely worsen the quality just to make sure that you won't be able to OCR it (but not so much that you can't read it), since so many clients seem to hate translations delivered from OCR-d documents?

Another frequent reaction of mine is a telepathic scream to the unknown end client to "PLEASE CLEAN THE ROLLERS IN YOUR FAX MACHINE!!!"

So far my pleas have gone unheard, or at least unheeded.
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Mina Ahmadi  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 00:24
Member
Persian (Farsi) to English
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Nothing special, Jul 5, 2013

I just do translation, I do nothing special!

 

Theo Bernards (X)  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 06:24
English to Dutch
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Instant rate increase... Jul 5, 2013

...of approximately 1 to 3 cents extra per source word (which, much to my amusement, often results in a Word document magically appearing ☺) and if the client doesn't want to pay the extra rate, I politely decline the assignment.

 

neilmac  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 06:24
Spanish to English
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Unprintable Jul 5, 2013

I rant, rave, spit, curse and froth (inwardly), then muster a facade of politeness as best I can and tell the perpetrator to "find another monkey"...

 

Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 21:24
English to German
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An anecdote (sorry, a bit off topic) Jul 5, 2013

Rudolf Vedo CT wrote:
scream to the unknown end client to "PLEASE CLEAN THE ROLLERS IN YOUR FAX MACHINE!!!"


A client once managed to call me on the phone to tell me that the toner on MY fax machine must be low and if could please put new cartridges in, because the requested fax that I sent had come out too pale and was illegible.


 

Anton Konashenok  Identity Verified
Czech Republic
Local time: 06:24
English to Russian
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OCR Jul 5, 2013

since so many clients seem to hate translations delivered from OCR-d documents?

If a client can distinguish an OCRed document from a manually typed one, it only means the OCR user doesn't know how to use the software properly. Unfortunately, very few do. I'm already thinking of giving lectures on the proper use of OCR.

[Edited at 2013-07-05 22:02 GMT]


 

Orrin Cummins  Identity Verified
Japan
Local time: 14:24
Japanese to English
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You need two things to do it properly, in my opinion Jul 5, 2013

1. ABBYY Finereader
2. Adobe Acrobat Pro

For really poor-quality documents, it can take almost as much time to rebuild them as it does to translate them, so it is a given that the client should be charged accordingly. If they refuse to do so (as they often will, in my experience), then drop them as clients. It's that simple.

That is, unless you fancy working with for-profit companies in a volunteer capacity.


 

Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 21:24
English to German
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Also: Jul 5, 2013

Rudolf Vedo CT wrote:
Another frequent reaction of mine is a telepathic scream to the unknown end client to "PLEASE CLEAN THE ROLLERS IN YOUR FAX MACHINE!!!"

So far my pleas have gone unheard, or at least unheeded.
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- Please make sure to take the document out of its binder before you put it on your cheap scanner / copier

- Please make sure to unfold those dog ears. Even if they are important to you.

- Please make sure to place the document on your scanner / copier aligned and in a proper angle. Despite the fact that you consider a 13 degree angle highly dynamic and hip.


 

Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 06:24
English to Polish
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I hate OCR-ed sources Jul 22, 2013

And I also hate the idea of someone needing the exact layout of the source – from a non-editable PDF – while somehow not having a .doc version around (or at least a civilised PDF). Yeah, right. I'm not their cleaning man.

 

Edward Vreeburg  Identity Verified
Netherlands
Local time: 06:24
Member (2008)
English to Dutch
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same as theo.... Jul 22, 2013

... doesn't even have to be a bad scan either:

PDF= 0,05 extra per source word!

and then magic happens, ...they find the original editable word version...

Ed


 

Marie-Helene Dubois  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 06:24
Spanish to English
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charge a per hour rate for formatting Jul 23, 2013

if the client wants the document delivered in the same format.
In this case, Word documents also often suddenly appear.
If not, I OCR the document but I don't mind because I'm being paid for it.

What is it by the way that some clients don't like about OCR? Does anyone know?


 

Madeleine Chevassus  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 06:24
Member (2010)
English to French
unreadable input Jul 23, 2013

I received a text as a PDF; it was quite big and the agency had received it by fax; 50% of the text (English) was unreadable; of course it didn' work with any of my CAT tools. It was very urgent!

If I had Abby fine reader, maybe it would have worked directly.

If it were 2 pages, I should have tried to "guess" the English text.

Since this job was not a quote of mine, I suggested the outsourcer to have the text typed again by his American secretary and then to send me the clean copy..



[Edited at 2013-07-23 20:42 GMT]

[Edited at 2013-07-23 20:45 GMT]


 

Madeleine Chevassus  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 06:24
Member (2010)
English to French
unreadable input Jul 23, 2013

I received a text as a PDF; it was quite big and the agency had received it by fax; 50% of the text (English) was unreadable; of course it didn' work with any of my CAT tools.

If I had Abby, maybe it would have worked directly.

If it were 2 pages, I should have tried to "guess" the English text.

Since this job was not a quote of mine, I suggested the outsourcer to have the text typed again by his American secretary and then to send me the clean copy..


 


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