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James Calder  Identity Verified
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Jan 12, 2004

http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1117818,00.html

Link to an article from the Guardian on Google featuring some very useful techniques for refining Google searches and eliminating all those useless hits.

[Edited at 2004-01-12 18:42]


 

Carlos Moreno  Identity Verified
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There's a little problem with thiw link Jan 12, 2004

Although the link address itself is allright, the way Proz got it is no good.
If some of you colleagues wants to read the article (a very good one!), I suggest you copy the whole line, and then paste it in the address field of your Internet browser page.
Happy translating to all!


 

James Calder  Identity Verified
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Apologies Jan 12, 2004

Apologies for the faulty link. Thanks Carlos.

 

Abdellatif Bouhid  Identity Verified
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Here is the whole line linked Jan 12, 2004

Or

copy and paste

http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1117818,00.html


 

Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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Not quite... Jan 12, 2004

Thanks for trying, but to properly show the link, you need to embed it in "url" and "/url", whereby the quotes are replaced by "[" and "]", respectively:

[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1117818,00.html
[/url]

BTW, it was possible to use the link by copying and pasting it into your browser anyway...

HTH, Ralf


 

Harry Bornemann  Identity Verified
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another try Jan 12, 2004

www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1117818,00.html

Yes, this one really worksicon_wink.gif

Don't insert a manual line break between the brackets.

And all the trouble started because the URL contains commas. Commas are perfectly admissible for URLs, but some web programmers ignore this..icon_rolleyes.gif

[Edited at 2004-01-13 15:07]


 

Gerard de Noord  Identity Verified
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site:uk define:something Jan 12, 2004

The Guardian left two operators out that are very useful for translators.

site:de proz
to find the word proz on German sites

site:uk "game fisher"
to find the term game fisher on British sites

define:pro
to see a definition of the word pro

define:"black plague"
to see a definition of the term black plague

Regards,
Gerard


 

Hynek Palatin  Identity Verified
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More reading Jan 12, 2004

Google has its own help:

Google Help Central
The Basics of Google Search
Advanced Search


 

Deborah Shannon  Identity Verified
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Any other favourite search engines? Jan 12, 2004

Thanks for posting that, James

James Calder wrote:

Link to an article from the Guardian on Google featuring some very useful techniques for refining Google searches and eliminating all those useless hits.



I like the reminder in the final paragraph that there are other search engines too - hard to believe sometimes icon_smile.gif

In fact I've been meaning to ask this ever since I heard google might be floated for lots of money... are there things that other search engines do better than google?

And thinking the unthinkable for a moment, if google went offline for some reason, which search engines would be worth turning to for their multilingual features?


 

Lorenzo Lilli  Identity Verified
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other search engines Jan 13, 2004

Deborah Shannon wrote:

I like the reminder in the final paragraph that there are other search engines too - hard to believe sometimes icon_smile.gif

In fact I've been meaning to ask this ever since I heard google might be floated for lots of money... are there things that other search engines do better than google?

And thinking the unthinkable for a moment, if google went offline for some reason, which search engines would be worth turning to for their multilingual features?


I also use www.alltheweb.com and www.copernic.com. I downloaded copernic just a few days ago but I find it impressive: it's kind of a meta-search engine, which searches in several search engines (including google, I think). The interface is not so user-friendly IMHO.


 

Regina Schwarz  Identity Verified
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Another helpful trick Jan 13, 2004

I like Alltheweb because it is more accurate than Google when you want to restrict your search to a particular language. I use this a lot when searching for obscure Swiss German or Austrian German terms that I can't find anywhere else. I search for the German word, but specify that the language is English. This helps to find bilingual websites where this word appears. I use Google when all else fails, because it returns the greatest number of hits.

-Regina


 

Krys Williams  Identity Verified
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Vivisimo and Teoma Jan 13, 2004

I like Vivisimo for its clustering. It presents search results in categorized folders. This is useful when you anticipate getting a lot of hits. I also like Teoma, because it sometimes points you to useful link collections on the topic of the search.

One difficulty I've been having with Google recently is that some of the higher ranking results are actually to spurious "search engines" rather than to real information. This does not happen with the other search engines.

The site:uk operator will presumably only find sites with co.uk, org.uk etc in the URL. The problem is that many non-US organizations use .com .net etc and these cannot be identified as country-specific.


 

Deborah Shannon  Identity Verified
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Thanks Jan 13, 2004

... to Lorenzo and Regina for the tips.

Regina wrote:

I like Alltheweb because it is more accurate than Google when you want to restrict your search to a particular language. I use this a lot when searching for obscure Swiss German or Austrian German terms that I can't find anywhere else.


That's well worth knowing, thanks very much!


I search for the German word, but specify that the language is English. This helps to find bilingual websites where this word appears.


Oh yes, and here's another great search interface using the same trick:

http://www.ticino.com/usr/tanya/Search_Interfaces_German.htm


 

Harry Bornemann  Identity Verified
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Vivisimo Jan 13, 2004

Krys Bottrill wrote:
I like Vivisimo for its clustering. It presents search results in categorized folders ... One difficulty I've been having with Google recently is that some of the higher ranking results are actually to spurious "search engines" rather than to real information.
This is a good reason for Vivisimo plus a good reason against Google.

From today on vivisimo.com is my first choice.

Thanks, Krysicon_smile.gif


 
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