Off my trolley?
Thread poster: Tom in London

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:05
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Italian to English
Jan 29, 2015

Da "il Fatto Quotidiano":

"Aveva con sé con 24 chili di cocaina, che trasportava all’interno di due bagagli a mano: 12 panetti chiusi con cellophane e nastro adesivo in un trolley e 9 in uno zainetto"

Ho guardato il video e ho visto solo una valigia e lo zainetto. In lingua italiana, che cos'è un "trolley"? Per me, madrelingua inglese, un trolley è un carello. Ma non ho visto nessun carello. Peraltro non è possibile nascondere niente dentro un carello. Questo sarebbe forse l'ennesimo esempio di un termine inglese "rubato" del quale è stato cambiato il significato? Sono confuso.

[Edited at 2015-01-29 07:01 GMT]


 

Alain Dellepiane  Identity Verified
Japan
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Termine piuttosto comune Jan 29, 2015

http://dizionari.corriere.it/dizionario_italiano/T/trolley.shtml

trolleys. ingl. (pl. trolleys); in it. s.m. inv. (o pl. orig.)
1 Nei veicoli mossi a elettricità, presa di corrente ad asta attaccata alle linee aeree
2 Valigia con rotelle

• a. 1894


 

Tom in London
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3 esempi di trolley (significato inglese) Jan 29, 2015

http://www.thehygienedoctor.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/01/Shopping-trolley.jpg

http://www.theworkplacedepot.co.uk/media/catalog/category//800X800/aluminium-folding-trolley-2.png

http://www.liftruck.co.uk/images/tc1840green.jpg

Wheeled suitcase (esempi):

http://www.suitcases.me.uk/img/cabin-approved-super-lightweight-wheeled-suitcase-blackred_2583_300.jpg

https://shopping.airfrance.com/documentsArticles/2014/14811/0014/214148110014_dim5.jpg

http://www.brookstone.com/freedom-21-lightweight-hardsided-wheeled-upright-suitcase

Come pronunciare "trolley":

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/british/trolley

[Edited at 2015-01-29 07:42 GMT]


 

Maaike van Vlijmen  Identity Verified
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Trolley Jan 29, 2015

Hi Tom,

I clicked on this thread because I'm translating about a trolley today! I'm also confused.. I thought a trolley was also a suitcase with wheels in English (apart from the meanings you mentioned). In Dutch it is (like in Italian), and apparently, in German as well.
Interesting stuff...


 

Tom in London
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Interesting stuff Jan 29, 2015

Maaike van Vlijmen wrote:

Hi Tom,

I clicked on this thread because I'm translating about a trolley today! I'm also confused.. I thought a trolley was also a suitcase with wheels in English (apart from the meanings you mentioned). In Dutch it is (like in Italian), and apparently, in German as well.
Interesting stuff...


Not only that: there's a thing in English that's written "latte" but is pronounced "lat-tay" and will not get you a glass of milk, but a caffé latte !

[Edited at 2015-01-29 10:25 GMT]


 

Alain Dellepiane  Identity Verified
Japan
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English to Italian
Trolley bag Jan 29, 2015

Pare che il termine inglese di partenza fosse trolley bag, poi abbreviato http://goo.gl/rcY8p2

 

Tom in London
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Other Italian abbreviations Jan 29, 2015

Alain Dellepiane wrote:

Pare che il termine inglese di partenza fosse trolley bag, poi abbreviato http://goo.gl/rcY8p2


Other Italian abbreviations that mean nothing in English:

Il British (the British Museum)
Il Financial (the Financial Times)


 

Luca Tutino  Identity Verified
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I guess you are not much of a frequent flyer Jan 29, 2015

As far as I remember, the original "trolley", widely sold in most international airports from the late 80s, was indeed a very small folding two-wheel trolley designed to carry a suitcase.

Later on, many suitcases integrated a trolley in the shape of 2 wheels and an extendable handle on opposite sides. The "trolley-suitcases" quickly became "trolleys" from the 90s on.

Then I started working as a free-lance and became a sporadic flyer myself... icon_smile.gif


 

Tom in London
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They're called.... Jan 29, 2015

Luca Tutino wrote:

As far as I remember, the original "trolley", widely sold in most international airports from the late 80s, was indeed a very small folding two-wheel trolley designed to carry a suitcase.

Later on, many suitcases integrated a trolley in the shape of 2 wheels and an extendable handle on opposite sides. The "trolley-suitcases" quickly became "trolleys" from the 90s on.

Then I started working as a free-lance and became a sporadic flyer myself... icon_smile.gif


..."wheeled suitcases" in English (see my links above). If I asked to "check in my trolley" I'd get some very strange looks, because it sounds a bit like being "off one's trolley".

Yes, the other separate foldable things with wheels, on which you put a non-wheeled suitcase, are called trolleys because that's what they are.

[Edited at 2015-01-29 10:53 GMT]


 

Russell Jones  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:05
Italian to English
Another Example Jan 29, 2015

In Italy recently, asking for a Wifi password, I was asked for my "handy".
I gather it's "German" for a mobile phone.


 

Tom in London
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Cell Jan 29, 2015

Russell Jones wrote:

In Italy recently, asking for a Wifi password, I was asked for my "handy".
I gather it's "German" for a mobile phone.


In American English it's "cell".


 


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