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Simplify access to discussion area of KudoZ page
Thread poster: Jack Doughty

Jack Doughty  Identity Verified
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Apr 24, 2009

I think the KudoZ question page is getting rather cluttered.
Do we really need a permanent explanation of the discussion function on the page?

Wouldn't a simple button be enough?


[Edited at 2009-04-24 14:48 GMT]


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Stéphanie Soudais  Identity Verified
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. Apr 24, 2009

Jack Doughty wrote:

Do we really need a permanent explanation of the discussion function on the page?



[Edited at 2009-04-24 11:29 GMT]


I'd tend to say "no", but I've been using KudoZ for several years. Maybe newbies or people not using KudoZ very often appreciate to know what "discuss" exactly means...I don't know!

Stéphanie


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Discussion vs. request for clarification Apr 24, 2009

Hi Jack,

I believe that this explanation is in fact useful because the "Clarification" (formerly known as "Ask the asker") and "Discussion" areas have been merged recently. "Discussion" alone would probably miss the clarification aspect to be taken care of in this area as well.

Best regards,
Steffen


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In which case ... Apr 24, 2009

Steffen Walter wrote:

I believe that this explanation is in fact useful because the "Clarification" (formerly known as "Ask the asker") and "Discussion" areas have been merged recently. "Discussion" alone would probably miss the clarification aspect to be taken care of in this area as well.



... Jack's suggestion could still be adopted with just a mouse-over (hover box) explanation. I agree with him -- the page is becoming too cluttered.

[Edited at 2009-04-24 13:53 GMT]


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Henry Dotterer
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I agree that the page is too cluttered. Apr 24, 2009

I'll see what we can remove.

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Yaotl Altan  Identity Verified
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Well... Apr 24, 2009

Henry D wrote:

I'll see what we can remove.


Well, we can remove the permanente explanation so it can appear just when we focus over the button "View discussion".

Indeed, I think we can implement a more graphical site with icons instead a long name in the button. "View discussion" contains 15 characters, which is a long text string.

Best regards.


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Claire Cox
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Has the search page changed as well recently? Apr 24, 2009

I agree with Jack.

The search page also seems to have changed for the worse recently too: when I search via the KudoZ toolbar, I now come to a page with very large font defining the search terms (which I presumably already know as I've just input them). I then have to scroll down to see the results of any search, which is very frustrating. Is it possible to revert to the previous display?

Claire


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Yaotl Altan  Identity Verified
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No Apr 24, 2009

Claire Cox wrote:

I agree with Jack.

The search page also seems to have changed for the worse recently too: when I search via the KudoZ toolbar, I now come to a page with very large font defining the search terms (which I presumably already know as I've just input them). I then have to scroll down to see the results of any search, which is very frustrating. Is it possible to revert to the previous display?

Claire


No, please.

Changes are for better. Just remember how did Proz look like in 2002....

We shall not prolongate these debates ad nauseaum. I propose to vote in a poll and end this "I like it-I don't like it-I like it-I don't like it" saga.

Best regards.


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Claire Cox
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Surely that's a matter of opinion? Apr 24, 2009

Yaotl Altan wrote:


Changes are for better. Just remember how did Proz look like in 2002....

We shall not prolongate these debates ad nauseaum. I propose to vote in a poll and end this "I like it-I don't like it-I like it-I don't like it" saga.



If none of us offered any feedback, there would be NO changes. I personally don't like the new page layout and am entitled to say so.

Claire


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Enza Longo  Identity Verified
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Agree with Claire Apr 24, 2009

I personally don't like it either - perhaps it's just a matter of getting used to all the changes of late.

... and what happened to the "track answer" button? It seems to have disappeared all of a sudden.


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Stéphanie Soudais  Identity Verified
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Track button still here Apr 24, 2009

Enza Longo wrote:


... and what happened to the "track answer" button? It seems to have disappeared all of a sudden.


Now it's on the left side and it looks like the forum's "track this topic" button.
The thing is that now, "Track this question " is checked by default as soon as you answer a question, which means that you get notification when someone suggest an answer after you. I personnaly don't need that feature....

Stéphanie


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Enza Longo  Identity Verified
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Right! I see it now! Apr 24, 2009

Thanks, Stephanie.

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Enrique Cavalitto
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Changes under way Apr 24, 2009

Hi all,

As part of the process of simplifying the interfaces, the "track" button has been replaced by a little green box similar to the one used in forums. Questions tracking is a member-only feature.

Following a suggestion received via support, we will add a "save" button to this box. It is not needed, but users feel more comfortable having it.

There is also a "Send me notifications about this discussion" selection box in the discussion area (available to all logged-in users).

The logic of these notifications is:

  • When you select the "track question" box, the "track discussion" will also be selected. You can then de-select any of them independently.

  • When you post a reference comment, an answer or a discussion entry, the "track discussion" box is selected. If you de-select it once it will no longer be automatically selected again in this question.

  • When "track question" is selected, you receive a notification each time a reference post or an answer is posted.

  • When "track discussion" is selected, you receive a notification each time a discussion entry is made.

    A detailed FAQ will provide a proper explanation of these features.

    Another implementation early next week will aim to simplifying the KudoZ interface.

    Regards,
    Enrique

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    I miss the old function Apr 24, 2009

    Steffen Walter wrote:
    I believe that this explanation is in fact useful because the "Clarification" (formerly known as "Ask the asker") and "Discussion" areas have been merged recently.


    Sorry to stray from the main topic, but I really miss the Clarification or Ask the Asker functions. We now don't have any way to ask the asker anything. I found that option very useful. Any chance there will be something similar soon?

    I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before. I was away for a while, came back, and noticed all the changes recently.


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    Enrique Cavalitto
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    Use the discuss feature Apr 24, 2009

    teju wrote:

    Steffen Walter wrote:
    I believe that this explanation is in fact useful because the "Clarification" (formerly known as "Ask the asker") and "Discussion" areas have been merged recently.


    Sorry to stray from the main topic, but I really miss the Clarification or Ask the Asker functions. We now don't have any way to ask the asker anything. I found that option very useful. Any chance there will be something similar soon?

    I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before. I was away for a while, came back, and noticed all the changes recently.


    Hi teju,

    You can use the discussion area for that purpose.

    Regards,
    Enrique


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